CCA Endgame: Limit of Two Revealed in Membership Commercial

["W"]

Trout limits in La should be like this

25 trout -12inch min
5- reds -14inch min 1 over 27 per day
10 flounder 10inch Mim
Black drum . 14inch no limit
Sheephead -no limit or size
White trout - no limit or size

Sailcats -$5 bounty for every one killed

[keakar]

Originally Posted by "W"

Trout limits in La should be like this

25 trout -12inch min
5- reds -14inch min 1 over 27 per day
10 flounder 10inch Mim
Black drum . 14inch no limit
Sheephead -no limit or size
White trout - no limit or size

Sailcats -$5 bounty for every one killed

very reasonable and completely supported by science that these limits would improve all of those fisheries.

but science shows you can double the red limits to 10 a day, which is what I support and think needs to be done.

it all depends if you are keeping 16"-18" reds or 24"-26" reds as to how much meat you are putting in the ice chest but its not about the meat haul aspect but I do realize people see it in those terms.

many look at it as, why would anyone would need more then 5 big reds but if my freezer is empty and im catching reds then that is a food source for me to live on and not just a hobby I do for an occasional meal as a "treat".

I am a sportsman and don't keep more then I need but I am not a "strictly for fun" fisherman, I NEED to put fish in the freezer the same way a gardener plants his crop to help offset food costs and have a healthier food source then processed foods.

redfish populations have exploded and they are overpopulated and reducing oyster and crab populations because of it. doubling the red limit doesn't mean everyone will take the full 10 limit, it just ensures that if a guy like me who is wanting to feed his family or just have a fish fry for the family reunion, can do so and it isn't in the least way harmful to the species to do just that. so base the limits on the amount of fish that the science says can be taken and not on "feelings" based on opinions of how much is enough for one person should "want" to keep, that's no different then what the CCA does in ignoring science based management.

I don't hunt, I only fish, and when I fish I need to catch roughly 20% of my yearly grocery supply in some form of fish so I can have one fish meal a week to make it on fixed income and I am not alone in this. many who think only in terms of "keep what you can eat in one meal" don't stop to think in terms of others who don't have the luxury to whip out a big wad of cash and buy food every day.

now the sailcats um I dunno on that one,
but I have eaten em "just to see" and while they are of course not better then specks, reds, or flounder, I find then not much different then regular blue or yellow catfish, they dont taste bad at all.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by "W"

Trout limits in La should be like this

25 trout -12inch min
5- reds -14inch min 1 over 27 per day
10 flounder 10inch Mim
Black drum . 14inch no limit
Sheephead -no limit or size
White trout - no limit or size

Sailcats -$5 bounty for every one killed

These are limits I can get behind, but who's gonna pay for the sailcat bounty? CCA? I doubt it. It would be good use of CCA funds though.

Sailcats are fine eating, and I'd just as soon have a bunch of bags of sailcat fillets in the freezer as channels or blues.

The harm sailcats do is how strongly they compete with specks and reds for available forage, and that they are good enough predators to prey on pretty good numbers of age zero specks and reds.

Look at the mouth size and basic design of a sailcat. It's a efficient piscivore (fish eater) much more like a flathead than like a channel catfish. When behthic resources are depleted (as they are with the oyster reef destruction), sailcats transition to higher in the water column and feed on whatever fish they can fit into their mouths. So, if you release them, I recommend euthanizing them first and releasing them to feed the crabs rather than letting them live to continue competing with adult sport species and preying on age zero redfish and specks.

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Before my family was oyster men they were commercial fishermen and cca put them outta business when they banned gill nets

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

These are limits I can get behind, but who's gonna pay for the sailcat bounty? CCA? I doubt it. It would be good use of CCA funds though.

Sailcats are fine eating, and I'd just as soon have a bunch of bags of sailcat fillets in the freezer as channels or blues.

The harm sailcats do is how strongly they compete with specks and reds for available forage, and that they are good enough predators to prey on pretty good numbers of age zero specks and reds.

Look at the mouth size and basic design of a sailcat. It's a efficient piscivore (fish eater) much more like a flathead than like a channel catfish. When behthic resources are depleted (as they are with the oyster reef destruction), sailcats transition to higher in the water column and feed on whatever fish they can fit into their mouths. So, if you release them, I recommend euthanizing them first and releasing them to feed the crabs rather than letting them live to continue competing with adult sport species and preying on age zero redfish and specks.

Been saying this for years to them trophy fishermen that throw the big ones back. Them big bass and trout eat the little bass and trout! That's why they make baits that are colored like bass and trout! Shouldn't be any size or slot limit either because I caught a 9" trout on Caldwell last year that had a 5" trout in its mouth. Ain't mo telling how many baby trout them things eat.

they all piscivores is why. I didn't know that word but now I do thanks

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by "W"

Trout limits in La should be like this

25 trout -12inch min
5- reds -14inch min 1 over 27 per day
10 flounder 10inch Mim
Black drum . 14inch no limit
Sheephead -no limit or size
White trout - no limit or size

Sailcats -$5 bounty for every one killed

This is the kind of science I am talkin bout. Where did u get this study from?

Don't agree with sailcats though yall ain't cooking them right. Bring them to Erath and we will show u how to cook em


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[rk3]

Originally Posted by "W"

Trout limits in La should be like this

25 trout -12inch min
5- reds -14inch min 1 over 27 per day
10 flounder 10inch Mim
Black drum . 14inch no limit
Sheephead -no limit or size
White trout - no limit or size

Sailcats -$5 bounty for every one killed

Yep.