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Old 04-29-2015, 06:57 PM
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the devil destroys one small "give in" at a time.....we have given in to cigs and alcohol....I am drinking a bourbon now.....

But abuse of both as ruined literally millions of lives directly and 100's of millions indirectly......

that can't be argued.
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:25 PM
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if this is accurate........this is a LARGE first step
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:35 PM
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if this is accurate........this is a LARGE first step
I get the gist of you're post but I wish there were more like these guys
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:11 PM
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if this is accurate........this is a LARGE first step
Good people. Any person can be trash. Race doesn't dictate that. Personal responsibility dictates what person you are.
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Good people. Any person can be trash. Race doesn't dictate that. Personal responsibility dictates what person you are.
What if you never, EVER saw ANY person in your family show personal responisbility?
Where would you learn it from?
No one took you to church?
Even your teachers cannot/did not show it to you.........
You came home to empty houses.........you ate from left OUT fast food, not leftover.....

No one taught you hygiene, basic civil understanding,

Would you even know WHAT repsonsibility looks like?
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What if you never, EVER saw ANY person in your family show personal responisbility?
Where would you learn it from?
No one took you to church?
Even your teachers cannot/did not show it to you.........
You came home to empty houses.........you ate from left OUT fast food, not leftover.....

No one taught you hygiene, basic civil understanding,

Would you even know WHAT repsonsibility looks like?

Excellent point, that's the million dollar question we don't know how to solve.
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Excellent point, that's the million dollar question we don't know how to solve.

Why did you go off on me earlier for basically saying the same thing?


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Old 04-29-2015, 10:24 PM
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Why did you go off on me earlier for basically saying the same thing?


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I apologize, the education part struck a nerve with me. My wife teaches high school.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:00 PM
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What if you never, EVER saw ANY person in your family show personal responisbility?
Where would you learn it from?
No one took you to church?
Even your teachers cannot/did not show it to you.........
You came home to empty houses.........you ate from left OUT fast food, not leftover.....

No one taught you hygiene, basic civil understanding,

Would you even know WHAT repsonsibility looks like?
Valid point SP but where do we draw the line? At some point it has to become a choice made by a person. I/we could have done many things in our lives but we made the choice to do or not do them. For better or worse we are where we are because of our own choices.
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Valid point SP but where do we draw the line? At some point it has to become a choice made by a person. I/we could have done many things in our lives but we made the choice to do or not do them. For better or worse we are where we are because of our own choices.

To me, this goes back to the upbringing that empowered you to make the decision you perceive as correct. Your decision is probably correct, but maybe I. The kind of the opposite side the perceived wrong decision has been engrained in them as the correct decision. Many factors can influence this as well, a fatherless son will more than likely make terrible decisions that are perceived as correct based on social influences (I.e. Music videos, negative influences that they look up to in popular culture, "ballers" in the neighborhood, etc...).

Your decisions can only be molded by the experiences you have had personally and perceived through lives closest to you......
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:26 AM
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To me, this goes back to the upbringing that empowered you to make the decision you perceive as correct. Your decision is probably correct, but maybe I. The kind of the opposite side the perceived wrong decision has been engrained in them as the correct decision. Many factors can influence this as well, a fatherless son will more than likely make terrible decisions that are perceived as correct based on social influences (I.e. Music videos, negative influences that they look up to in popular culture, "ballers" in the neighborhood, etc...).

Your decisions can only be molded by the experiences you have had personally and perceived through lives closest to you......
True. As an adult the consequences of your decisions good or bad are yours to bare. Several factors mold ones decision making abilities(as you stated and are correct about) but in the end it comes down to a person having a choice.
As you stated, people learn decision making skills through example and a large segment of our society is learning from a cycle of bad examples. The irony of it is that it's a taxpayer funded cycle for the most part.
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Old 04-30-2015, 08:36 AM
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This is true.

America owes them some type of course/class on being a normal responsible human. It's not their fault that one day they were running around and climbing trees in their native land and then some white people came and cuffed them and threw them on boats heading back to America. They were then put into fields to farm/work and then all of a sudden they were told you're free go take care of yourself. I guess they kind of do have an excuse to run around like barbaric savages, they are just reverting back to their roots. Maybe some assimilation courses are due.

I highly doubt many would participate, but it is one more thing we owe them.

I disagree somewhat.............

here's where I'm coming from............

What happened to the MLK's..........Medgar Evans and the leaders that did PULL thier people up??

It could be argued that the white man assinated them and pushed them back down.....

but it has also been many many many millions of white men that gave their lives to allow there freedom, to allow them to have a voice, to allow them to prosper.

it's thier own colored leaders that teach them they are "owed" and I am not faulting the now other races that fall in line for the free stuff.

There are way too many good people in all races to keep allowing this to go on.

the revolution should be siezing our moral culture back and not about a black white revolution.

the revolt should be ALL good and honest people taking our country back.

we have moved from morality, to immorality and quickly declining into amorality.......

read "The Prince" to get some insight into just how twisted and individual of class of people can get in thier minds regarding morality.

this country is not in a race war............we are in a morality war and culturual war
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