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Old 06-30-2015, 08:45 AM
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Not really. In states where gay marriage has been legal for some time, identifying as a Christian business has not prevented legal fines and threats of jail for those exerciseing conscience in refusing to participate in homosexual weddings.

Christian ministers have been threatened with jail time for refusing to officiate homosexual weddings. See:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-weddings.html

Are you "up in arms" about this?
Read on into this article without rise colors glasses and the reason is because this is a for profit business and not a church. Therefore they have to abide by anti discrimination laws. They agreed to them when they started that business.

I wanted to get married at a church in Monroe 12 years ago but hit **** down real quick because we were not members there. They can sob that's because they are a religious institution and not a business
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Read on into this article without rise colors glasses and the reason is because this is a for profit business and not a church. Therefore they have to abide by anti discrimination laws. They agreed to them when they started that business.

I wanted to get married at a church in Monroe 12 years ago but hit **** down real quick because we were not members there. They can sob that's because they are a religious institution and not a business
So are you saying a business should be forced to serve someone? Forgive me if I misundstand you.
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Old 06-30-2015, 02:21 PM
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So are you saying a business should be forced to serve someone? Forgive me if I misundstand you.
This is the link MG showed and if you actually look into it, there is some merit to it because it is a FOR profit organization and not a religious institution. IF it was a church, it would be different. The court is just upholding the law put in place for discrimination.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-weddings.html

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According to the lawsuit, the wedding chapel is registered with the state as a “religious corporation” limited to performing “one-man-one-woman marriages as defined by the Holy Bible.”

But the chapel is also registered as a for-profit business – not as a church or place of worship – and city officials said that means the owners must comply with a local nondiscrimination ordinance.

That ordinance, passed last year, prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation, and it applies to housing, employment and public accommodation.


If you are a business owner (which this chapel is and the bakery in Oregon), you have to adhere to the laws of discrimination.

That doesn't mean you can't refuse service to someone who has no shoes, shirt, sagging pants, or drunk, or talking on cellphone, etc. You can tell them to get out.

It is what it is
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This is the link MG showed and if you actually look into it, there is some merit to it because it is a FOR profit organization and not a religious institution. IF it was a church, it would be different. The court is just upholding the law put in place for discrimination.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-weddings.html

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According to the lawsuit, the wedding chapel is registered with the state as a “religious corporation” limited to performing “one-man-one-woman marriages as defined by the Holy Bible.”

But the chapel is also registered as a for-profit business – not as a church or place of worship – and city officials said that means the owners must comply with a local nondiscrimination ordinance.

That ordinance, passed last year, prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation, and it applies to housing, employment and public accommodation.


If you are a business owner (which this chapel is and the bakery in Oregon), you have to adhere to the laws of discrimination.

That doesn't mean you can't refuse service to someone who has no shoes, shirt, sagging pants, or drunk, or talking on cellphone, etc. You can tell them to get out.

It is what it is
Couldn't find the link on my phone. If I have no shoes, shirt, clothes on period and I'm on my phone and you ask me to leave aren't you at that point discrimating against me and my lifestyle? As long as I'm not threatening anyone it should be ok. If I'm minding my own business and grocery shopping naked I should be left alone right? If you say no because that's offense just ask a nudist if they feel the same way.
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Couldn't find the link on my phone. If I have no shoes, shirt, clothes on period and I'm on my phone and you ask me to leave aren't you at that point discrimating against me and my lifestyle? As long as I'm not threatening anyone it should be ok. If I'm minding my own business and grocery shopping naked I should be left alone right? If you say no because that's offense just ask a nudist if they feel the same way.
Not the same. It depends on what the anti-discrimination law of your state, city, or whatever is. It's usually something like can't discriminate on the basis of race, gender, or religious preference, or whatever.

Shoes, shirts, sagging pants, drunk, talking on cellphones aren't covered under that. That is why on your business you can have a sign that says No Shirt No Shoes No Service, or No Sagging, etc. because you aren't discriminating against anyone's race or religion. You can't have a sign that says No Muslims or No Hispanics though

And as far as walking around in a grocery store naked, that is illegal. Doesn't matter if you are black, white, or gay, or trisexual, you are getting arrested for public indecency
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Not the same. It depends on what the anti-discrimination law of your state, city, or whatever is. It's usually something like can't discriminate on the basis of race, gender, or religious preference, or whatever.

Shoes, shirts, sagging pants, drunk, talking on cellphones aren't covered under that. That is why on your business you can have a sign that says No Shirt No Shoes No Service, or No Sagging, etc. because you aren't discriminating against anyone's race or religion. You can't have a sign that says No Muslims or No Hispanics though
Don't have a sign just too busy to work on their crap.
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