Trump!

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by eman

No one has given up . except the republican party. how come the dems can run 1 maybe 2 candidates w/ one favorite who gets the backing of the whole party.
Where as the republican party as of yesterday has 16 candidates most w/o a chance in hell to be elected sniping at each other while all the dems have to do is focus on he top 2 or 3 and let the repubs take down the rest.
I am a staunch right wing libertarian . military veteran and oathkeeper . Surprised? In my close to 60 years on Gods earth i have seen presidents go from military veterans (most w/ some morals ) To law school graduated pretty boys that are more worried about the almighty dollar and how to get re elected than they are about you or me or the people of the USA.
the die was cast long ago to get control of the voting majority by getting them to be slaves to the new master. the government. right now they are about 50%. we saw it in both of the last 2 elections elections that they spread the fear that if we elect a republican that they will loose all there benefits. It worked then and it will work again as there more sheeple than there are of us that know what is going on and care enough to fight it. You can rally around and vote for who you want ( i know i will ) but as a student of politics IMHO the die has been cast and the nominees have already been decided. I hope and pray that i am wrong. But i haven't been in a long while.

Well said and exactly correct sir.

[lil bubba]

The reason hillarious is a frontrunner is because she is a woman....Same as obummer it was the in thing to do to elect a african muslim.....Its the in thing to do and hillarious will get the votes from the generation that knows no better.....Its the in thing to do to vote a woman president and the entitlements will flow.....

[scott craft]

I haven't been paying close attention to everything Trump has said, so is it true he wants to build a wall along the border to secure it?

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by scott craft

I haven't been paying close attention to everything Trump has said, so is it true he wants to build a wall along the border to secure it?

IDK but I like the idea. Hell we'll get Mexicans to build it. Just make sure they work from the south side of the wall

[keakar]

Originally Posted by scott craft

I haven't been paying close attention to everything Trump has said, so is it true he wants to build a wall along the border to secure it?

not only that but he said he would shut down all trade with mexico into the united states until mexico built the wall at their expense and secured the border from their side and if they didn't want to do that, then he would cut all ties and trade with mexico permanently.

I do agree with him this isn't an American problem, its a Mexican problem from not securing the borders and actually encouraging illegals to cross into the united states.

the immigration problem is just like the drug problem in that you cant stop illegal drugs as long as there is a big demand for them and likewise you cant stop illegal border crossings unless both sides of the border are working equally hard to stop it. the US cannot secure the border by itself, mexico must actively help to secure it from their side too.

[scott craft]

Originally Posted by keakar

not only that but he said he would shut down all trade with mexico into the united states until mexico built the wall at their expense and secured the border from their side and if they didn't want to do that, then he would cut all ties and trade with mexico permanently.

I do agree with him this isn't an American problem, its a Mexican problem from not securing the borders and actually encouraging illegals to cross into the united states.

the immigration problem is just like the drug problem in that you cant stop illegal drugs as long as there is a big demand for them and likewise you cant stop illegal border crossings unless both sides of the border are working equally hard to stop it. the US cannot secure the border by itself, mexico must actively help to secure it from their side too.

I'm sure that's going to work well. Then what's he going to do, load all 11 million illegals that are in the country right now on buses and take them back to Mexico?

[eman]

Originally Posted by scott craft

I'm sure that's going to work well. Then what's he going to do, load all 11 million illegals that are in the country right now on buses and take them back to Mexico?

If he thought it was doable he would. but you can bet your butt that there would be no release of any illegal aliens that are charged w/ a crime.
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[Goooh]

There would be a hole every quarter mile in that wall, and that wouldn't matter because there are already tunnels and would be even more.

[eman]

Tunnels are very easy to find IF they WANT to find them . GPR can be towed behind a 4wd and cover many miles of border in a day. they can build a triple fence on the border like the new prisons have . 3 - 16 ' fences and the middle one is charged w/ high voltage .

[eman]

http://personalliberty.com/heres-why...-at-all-costs/

THIS says it all about why they are scared to death of Donald trump.

[irokcj5]

I'm watching Trump with a lot of interest. When he first got in the running, I thought he was a joke....but after hearing his passion, I'm really starting to wonder if he is the one that can turn this country around and get back to the constitution and rule of law. He is starting to remind me of the rich men of our forefathers who loved country more than their wealth and risked all to have a free country. I think the article above nails it good. The media makes Trump sound like an idiot, but they are only trying to deflect and change the story. He is only speaking what most regular Americans are asking. I really think he should start running as an independent so that the media cannot pigeon hole him as one of many crazy republicans. If he runs as an independent and starts trying to get blue collar democrats (there's a lot out there), conservative republicans, independents, and libertarians. We may be seeing history in the making, and a guy that I never liked much, may be seen 100 years from now as one of the Great Americans in History.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by eman

http://personalliberty.com/heres-why...-at-all-costs/

THIS says it all about why they are scared to death of Donald trump.

NICE!!!!!!

[ski]

Originally Posted by 23classic

Attitudes like that are what will loose another election. Agreed, Bush should not be the guy, BUT, if he does get the nom, we need to turn out and vote for him so we don't elect the Last time you know what happened when folks stayed home! Work for the candidate you think is best, but in the end support the nominee, we can't afford to elect another dem right now. Bush isn't what we need, but he is a dam lot better than the Wouldn't you feel better about the country now if Romney had been elected? No doubt! I like Trump, and am getting an *** full of the Fox News folks that call him a clown and side show. I understand it from the other news outlets, but Fox is beginning to piss me off more and more. Too many ex-bushi and establishment elitist on there ! An by all means, let's keep a positive attitude and believe we can beat the not give up like the guy quoted above!

Bush, Rubio, or Christie get the nod and I,m voting straight Dem ticket for the first time in my life outta spite. Gave em their majority and what have they done with it so far? Given big 0 every thing he wants. Screw em!

[scott craft]

I'd like to hear other things from Trump like how he intends to cut spending or his foreign policy ideas. Securing the border sounds good and it's easy to get on that bandwagon, but I don't think our country can realistically afford to do it with the massive amounts of debt we have right now.

[irokcj5]

Originally Posted by ski

Bush, Rubio, or Christie get the nod and I,m voting straight Dem ticket for the first time in my life outta spite. Gave em their majority and what have they done with it so far? Given big 0 every thing he wants. Screw em!

Thats why a good 3rd party can win this time! The avg democrats don't like their choices either, and most repubs are just power hungry and don't have any convictions other than selfish.... they just want to be in office. Word to the wise, lets let this whole thing play out for a few months and don't let the media, including FOX persuade your thinking. do your research on each candidate. In the end Ski, I'm with you. I WILL NOT vote for an established Republican. A sinking ship is still sinking.

[lilesrt]

Originally Posted by scott craft

I'd like to hear other things from Trump like how he intends to cut spending or his foreign policy ideas. Securing the border sounds good and it's easy to get on that bandwagon, but I don't think our country can realistically afford to do it with the massive amounts of debt we have right now.

Donald Trump has no intention on cutting spending. He is a big government guy. His justification is "make the country rich" so that we can afford big spending. As a fiscal and social conservative, the only way D. Trump gets my vote is for damage control sake. He would be alot better than H. Clinton or Bernie Sanders. Personally, Ben Carson is who I support. The thought of Jeb Bush getting the nomination makes my stomach turn, but I think it is a greater than 50% chance that it happens, unfortunately.

[duckman1911]

I do think Trump like any other is out to make $. I also know Trump is a business man and he knows the company has to make money if he wants to make money. We need to get the dollar back on top and I think he knows best how to do it.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by lilesrt

Donald Trump has no intention on cutting spending. He is a big government guy. His justification is "make the country rich" so that we can afford big spending. As a fiscal and social conservative, the only way D. Trump gets my vote is for damage control sake. He would be alot better than H. Clinton or Bernie Sanders. Personally, Ben Carson is who I support. The thought of Jeb Bush getting the nomination makes my stomach turn, but I think it is a greater than 50% chance that it happens, unfortunately.

Our founding fathers were staunch business men, and we wouldn't be the country we are today if it weren't for them being driven by the need and know how how to make money.

Making money and managing it go hand in hand, ain't no shame in having someone that chases the wealth and prosperity of the country as a whole - whether it be through cutting spending, or increasing the inflow, or both.

[BassYakR]

Originally Posted by Goooh

Our founding fathers were staunch business men, and we wouldn't be the country we are today if it weren't for them being driven by the need and know how how to make money.

Making money and managing it go hand in hand, ain't no shame in having someone that chases the wealth and prosperity of the country as a whole - whether it be through cutting spending, or increasing the inflow, or both.

This may be the first time ive ever agreed with something you have said!

[lilesrt]

Originally Posted by Goooh

Our founding fathers were staunch business men, and we wouldn't be the country we are today if it weren't for them being driven by the need and know how how to make money.

Making money and managing it go hand in hand, ain't no shame in having someone that chases the wealth and prosperity of the country as a whole - whether it be through cutting spending, or increasing the inflow, or both.

There is no doubt that D. Trump would do great things for this country in terms of economic growth and foreign trade, etc.. My point was that just because he is running as a Republican candidate doesn't mean he is conservative. My personal belief supports the notion that government is best when it is limited. Donald Trump's philosophy is quite different. With that said, he would be better than Jeb Bush, or any other establishment candidate in the running.