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[DaPointIsDaBomb]

We spending more than we bringing in. Oil is our gravy train, and the train is running slow. TOPS is welfare sorta, but shoulda been safe from cuts if it truly comes from the lottery. They were supposed to give teachers raises from that lottery money too. If they have to cut education, the first thing they should do is start getting rid of all these universities we got. We have way too many. Grambling, Southern, LSUA, Northwestern, etc. could all go and then no matter where you lived in the state, you would be within 75 miles of a university.

McNeese too while we are at it. Got ULL right down the road

[eman]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

We spending more than we bringing in. Oil is our gravy train, and the train is running slow. TOPS is welfare sorta, but shoulda been safe from cuts if it truly comes from the lottery. They were supposed to give teachers raises from that lottery money too. If they have to cut education, the first thing they should do is start getting rid of all these universities we got. We have way too many. Grambling, Southern, LSUA, Northwestern, etc. could all go and then no matter where you lived in the state, you would be within 75 miles of a university.

McNeese too while we are at it. Got ULL right down the road

First they need to get one board to run the system not the 3 -4 they have now. then any university that doesn't graduate up to a certain percentage of its students in a 4 year program in 6 years time should be closed.
Example SUNO graduates 8% in 4 years and 11% in 6 years. Waste of money. If there is another university within a certain mileage and one can handle the load of both one gets closed.

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

We spending more than we bringing in. Oil is our gravy train, and the train is running slow. TOPS is welfare sorta, but shoulda been safe from cuts if it truly comes from the lottery. They were supposed to give teachers raises from that lottery money too. If they have to cut education, the first thing they should do is start getting rid of all these universities we got. We have way too many. Grambling, Southern, LSUA, Northwestern, etc. could all go and then no matter where you lived in the state, you would be within 75 miles of a university.

McNeese too while we are at it. Got ULL right down the road

Cut all those Colleges of Ebonics and get ready for the Ferguson of the South.

[Mako19]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

We spending more than we bringing in. Oil is our gravy train, and the train is running slow. TOPS is welfare sorta, but shoulda been safe from cuts if it truly comes from the lottery. They were supposed to give teachers raises from that lottery money too. If they have to cut education, the first thing they should do is start getting rid of all these universities we got. We have way too many. Grambling, Southern, LSUA, Northwestern, etc. could all go and then no matter where you lived in the state, you would be within 75 miles of a university.

McNeese too while we are at it. Got ULL right down the road

McNeese should be a 2 year technical college.

ULM should be absorbed into LaTech.

Grambling and SUNO......well enough has been said.

[Blue Wave 2200]

Originally Posted by Mako19

McNeese should be a 2 year technical college

Just curious, what is your reasoning behind this statement? Personal opinion or based on facts?

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Blue Wave 2200

Just curious, what is your reasoning behind this statement? Personal opinion or based on facts?

No, that is just what every single ULL graduate says because they don't want ULL to close or be impacted in any way. It doesn't matter how many people McNeese puts in the local facilities or the over $300 million economic impact that McNeese has in SWLA. Bet it has more of an impact than most of the other 4 year universities, save for ULL, LSU, and Tulane. No way SELA, NWST, ULM, or NSU have that impact.

And no way a 2 yesr technical school would have that impact. Do things need to be cut and streamlined? Yes. But there is no reason for McNeese to go to a 2 year status. You want to make cuts? How about to the ridiculous number of schools in North Louisiana with the population there is in that region. You have LSUA, Louisiana College, NWST, ULM, LA TECH, Grambling, and LSUS all in that region. Why the hell do you need so many colleges in a region with the population that it has?

More people live in the I-10 cooridor than any other part of the state. Could ULL handle the load that it would have to take on if McNeese did not offer 4 year programs? Doubt it. I read somewhere that the main region that McNeese supports has something in the realm of 300-400k people. That's plenty big enough to support a 4 year university. And McNeese has the alumni to support the university.

Cut programs if necessary, or combine programs. But there are enough reasons to maintain McNeese as a 4 year.


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[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by Smalls

No, that is just what every single ULL graduate says because they don't want ULL to close or be impacted in any way. It doesn't matter how many people McNeese puts in the local facilities or the over $300 million economic impact that McNeese has in SWLA. Bet it has more of an impact than most of the other 4 year universities, save for ULL, LSU, and Tulane. No way SELA, NWST, ULM, or NSU have that impact.

And no way a 2 yesr technical school would have that impact. Do things need to be cut and streamlined? Yes. But there is no reason for McNeese to go to a 2 year status. You want to make cuts? How about to the ridiculous number of schools in North Louisiana with the population there is in that region. You have LSUA, Louisiana College, NWST, ULM, LA TECH, Grambling, and LSUS all in that region. Why the hell do you need so many colleges in a region with the population that it has?

More people live in the I-10 cooridor than any other part of the state. Could ULL handle the load that it would have to take on if McNeese did not offer 4 year programs? Doubt it. I read somewhere that the main region that McNeese supports has something in the realm of 300-400k people. That's plenty big enough to support a 4 year university. And McNeese has the alumni to support the university.

Cut programs if necessary, or combine programs. But there are enough reasons to maintain McNeese as a 4 year.


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Lot's of good points.....

Here is more.......
LaTech consistently ranks as one of the top engineering options in the country. It also offers one of only two cyber engineering schools in the country.

While McNeese does have alumni that support the school........MOST alumni of MOST Louisiana colleges are more willing to spend 15 million to buy a coaches contract out to fire him than support the education of kids or the arts.

That is just a fact.

Until we as a state become as proud of our students as we are about our student atheletes, we will never clean up the system

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

Lot's of good points.....

Here is more.......
LaTech consistently ranks as one of the top engineering options in the country. It also offers one of only two cyber engineering schools in the country.

While McNeese does have alumni that support the school........MOST alumni of MOST Louisiana colleges are more willing to spend 15 million to buy a coaches contract out to fire him than support the education of kids or the arts.

That is just a fact.

Until we as a state become as proud of our students as we are about our student atheletes, we will never clean up the system

I've always liked art, love photography....waste of money at a university. Drop the liberal arts programs. They are a drain, and I would be willing to bet the employment rate of liberal arts graduates in their field is much lower compared to business and the sciences.

Why do you think JBE used the loss LSU football as a threat? Dude isn't stupid. He knows all these morons will be up in arms to do whatever it takes to not lose their fooseball. Those are the people that fail to realize the tigers belong to Louisiana State UNIVERSITY, a place of higher learning.

This isn't just a Louisiana problem. Just look at sports today versus 50 years ago. The best player in baseball might have made $130k a year back then. Now they might make $30 million a year. Our society as a whole puts more emphasis on sports and less on an education. Hell, they even lower the standards in some places (EBR *cough*).

A cultural change is needed, and that is not an overnight change.

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[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by Smalls

No, that is just what every single ULL graduate says because they don't want ULL to close or be impacted in any way. It doesn't matter how many people McNeese puts in the local facilities or the over $300 million economic impact that McNeese has in SWLA. Bet it has more of an impact than most of the other 4 year universities, save for ULL, LSU, and Tulane. No way SELA, NWST, ULM, or NSU have that impact.

And no way a 2 yesr technical school would have that impact. Do things need to be cut and streamlined? Yes. But there is no reason for McNeese to go to a 2 year status. You want to make cuts? How about to the ridiculous number of schools in North Louisiana with the population there is in that region. You have LSUA, Louisiana College, NWST, ULM, LA TECH, Grambling, and LSUS all in that region. Why the hell do you need so many colleges in a region with the population that it has?

More people live in the I-10 cooridor than any other part of the state. Could ULL handle the load that it would have to take on if McNeese did not offer 4 year programs? Doubt it. I read somewhere that the main region that McNeese supports has something in the realm of 300-400k people. That's plenty big enough to support a 4 year university. And McNeese has the alumni to support the university.

Cut programs if necessary, or combine programs. But there are enough reasons to maintain McNeese as a 4 year.


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Everybody wants cuts but doesn't want cuts in their region. Mcneese should go. ULM, LSUA, LSUS, NW, Southeastern or Nicholls and all the historically black colleges. It's racist if you think about it. Segregation is over

That $300 million economic impact is just s number that was derived from someone at mcneese and probably exaggerated

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

Everybody wants cuts but doesn't want cuts in their region. Mcneese should go. ULM, LSUA, LSUS, NW, Southeastern or Nicholls and all the historically black colleges. It's racist if you think about it. Segregation is over

That $300 million economic impact is just s number that was derived from someone at mcneese and probably exaggerated

When you're a troll, you troll. It's what you do.

If you want to save 15% or more on car insurance, you switch to GEICO.

It's what you do.

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[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Blue Wave 2200

Just curious, what is your reasoning behind this statement? Personal opinion or based on facts?

Mako just doesn't want to watch McNeese beat that a** in football next fall.

[Mako19]

Originally Posted by Blue Wave 2200

Just curious, what is your reasoning behind this statement? Personal opinion or based on facts?

A little bit of both. I knew it would ruffle some feathers (mainly yours) and was in the mood to stir the pot.

Honestly, McNeese isn't dragging down Louisiana education system nearly as much as the other Schools I mentioned.

I still believe LA only needs three (public) 4 year Universities with the rest of them either closing doors or becoming a feeder school like a JUCO, Technical College, or Community College.

However, NO politicIan has the balls to propose closing down Granby ing or Southern. That would be political suicide. They would rather allow the other universities in the state to erode away.

[Blue Wave 2200]

Originally Posted by Mako19

A little bit of both. I knew it would ruffle some feathers (mainly yours) and was in the mood to stir the pot.

It's all good. I agree something should be done to trim down the # of colleges.