Trump's first day as POTUS

[Baychamp1]

Originally Posted by Renegade

How do you propose we do that legally in the United States? How do we stop only Muslims from coming into the country? How do we only question Muslims about their travels? Give me what legal basis you have to effectively execute such a policy.

It's called an Executive Order, issued by the POTUS.

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by Baychamp1

It's called an Executive Order, issued by the POTUS.

You don't understand Executive Orders.

Executive Orders must still be lawful. An Executive Order will not be used to discriminate against an entire group of people based on their religion. Even if it's attempted, it will be challenged and it will fail. This is not a dictatorship.

Try again.

[marty f]

Originally Posted by Renegade

You don't understand Executive Orders.

Executive Orders must still be lawful. An Executive Order will not be used to discriminate against an entire group of people based on their religion. Even if it's attempted, it will be challenged and it will fail. This is not a dictatorship.

Try again.

I guess Obama dosent read Saltycajun.com........

[Baychamp1]

Originally Posted by marty f

I guess Obama dosent read Saltycajun.com........

Sounds like one of his supporters does

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by Baychamp1

Sounds like one of his supporters does

Actually, I'm an Independent. I have never been a member of either party. Never voted strictly on party lines.

As my username says, I'm a renegade. I don't blindly follow anyone.

I just have an aversion to lies. And bigotry.

[marty f]

Originally Posted by Renegade

I just have an aversion to lies..

Man you must REALLY HATE Clinton then!!

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by marty f

Man you must REALLY HATE Clinton then!!

Actually, I do. Despise is a better word.

Surprising, huh?

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by marty f

I guess Obama dosent read Saltycajun.com........

Didn't have to.

The Supreme Court found his Executive Order was lawful. But, he already knew that because he's a Constitutional scholar. That's what happens when you're knowledgeable.

Our friend, Donald Trump, on the other hand ....

[seachaser250]

Originally Posted by Renegade

Didn't have to.

The Supreme Court found his Executive Order was lawful. But, he already knew that because he's a Constitutional scholar. That's what happens when you're knowledgeable.

Our friend, Donald Trump, on the other hand ....

Sarcasm?

[seachaser250]

Renegade,

You think Obama is a constitutional scholar?

[marty f]

Originally Posted by Renegade

Didn't have to.

The Supreme Court found his Executive Order was lawful. ..

Which ones ?? He's made over 227 of them !! What an azz he is he dosent get his way through congress and makes the threat ""I have a pen and a phone I'll push an executive order through"" and he has.....

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by marty f

Which ones ?? He's made over 227 of them !! What an azz he is he dosent get his way through congress and makes the threat ""I have a pen and a phone I'll push an executive order through"" and he has.....

Less than George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon ... should I go on? Executive Orders are not unusual and have a legitimate purpose in our system of government.

Which one? The only one his opponents thought they could challenge legally. And they failed.

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by Renegade

Didn't have to.

The Supreme Court found his Executive Order was lawful. But, he already knew that because he's a Constitutional scholar. That's what happens when you're knowledgeable.

Our friend, Donald Trump, on the other hand ....

So you don't think Obama has walked all over the Constitution since he has been in office?

[Baychamp1]

Originally Posted by Renegade

You don't understand Executive Orders.

Executive Orders must still be lawful. An Executive Order will not be used to discriminate against an entire group of people based on their religion. Even if it's attempted, it will be challenged and it will fail. This is not a dictatorship.

Try again.

Discrimination laws are for U.S. Citizens, stopping Muslim immigration until we figure this out as Trump says is about National Security. So if all the ISIL terrorists that are Muslim had red dots on their forehead, we'd have to let them in according to you, or we'd be discriminating against the "red dot" Muslims.

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by Baychamp1

Discrimination laws are for U.S. Citizens, stopping Muslim immigration until we figure this out as Trump says is about National Security. So if all the ISIL terrorists that are Muslim had red dots on their forehead, we'd have to let them in according to you, or we'd be discriminating against the "red dot" Muslims.

So, you've conceded stopping Muslims from traveling, particularly American Muslims, is not going to happen?

That's progress.

Now, about this silly immigration argument. People intending to bomb a country don't need to immigrate there. They can be a tourist, temporary worker, student or any other "legitimate" visitor. A citizen. If you really think all bombers are immigrants, you're incredibly naive.

The bottom line is stopping immigration until Donald Trump "figures this out" (a laughable idea) is not going to do anything to stop the threat of terror in the US.

Terrorists are not as simple as some of you are. If you stop immigration, they'll just find another way.

Immigration is not the problem. The terrorist themselves are the problem and that's what we need to focus on stopping. Terrorists. Not the immigration of all Muslims.

[Baychamp1]

Originally Posted by Renegade

So, you've conceded stopping Muslims from traveling, particularly American Muslims, is not going to happen?

That's progress.

Now, about this silly immigration argument. People intending to bomb a country don't need to immigrate there. They can be a tourist, temporary worker, student or any other "legitimate" visitor. A citizen. If you really think all bombers are immigrants, you're incredibly naive.

The bottom line is stopping immigration until Donald Trump "figures this out" (a laughable idea) is not going to do anything to stop the threat of terror in the US.

Terrorists are not as simple as some of you are. If you stop immigration, they'll just find another way.

Immigration is not the problem. The terrorist themselves are the problem and that's what we need to focus on stopping. Terrorists. Not the immigration of all Muslims.

Your simple mind was the one trying to apply US discrimination laws to those trying to immigrate here, always holler discrimination. Sounds like you're the one that's naive

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by Baychamp1

Your simple mind was the one trying to apply US discrimination laws to those trying to immigrate here, always holler discrimination. Sounds like you're the one that's naive

Wasn't referring to immigration at that point. Not surprised you couldn't make the distinction.

[marty f]

Originally Posted by Renegade

Immigration is not the problem. The terrorist themselves are the problem and that's what we need to focus on stopping. Terrorists. Not the immigration of all Muslims.

When you find out the water coming out of you faucet has poison in it you don't keep drinking it you shut off the faucet and don't drink it until the poison is removed........

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by marty f

When you find out the water coming out of you faucet has poison in it you don't keep drinking it you shut off the faucet and don't drink it until the poison is removed........

Seriously, Berkey Water Filters are a wonderful thing. You should check them out. Maybe get one for your family.

Just filter the water, man. That's been my point all along.

[Baychamp1]

Originally Posted by Renegade

Seriously, Berkey Water Filters are a wonderful thing. You should check them out. Maybe get one for your family.

Just filter the water, man. That's been my point all along.

So you want to install a filter while Trump want's to build a dam. How does your filter disseminate between good & bad particles?