why was the "CCA STAR Tournament Big Trout West Leader" thread moved?

[keakar]

Originally Posted by ckinchen

Not a cheap shot that's how I feel about that member. He use to be very helpful to the site like many he stopped posting probably had more important things to do, I get it. I do not post as often as I should because I'm busy like you guys. Telling the me the site went to **** is not constructive so why should I be. The site is down because people aren't posting as much as they once did. READ what I wrote before that is NORMAL for a forum. It's up to you guys if you want to keep this thing alive or not. Post more if you want to keep it alive the site has been and can be a great tool for all of us and benefit many.

but at the same time, you have to realize a lot of people have stopped posting because there is a group of long time members here who do nothing but act like trolls, criticizing them for their opinions rather then posting about the topic being discussed in that thread as well as making fun of spelling errors (as if we are in school needing to be spell checked).


you know who the trouble makers are, and while i like this site and its free format to speak your mind without over modification of the threads, there is a point where total lack of moderation has made people feel unwelcome to voice ANY opinion for fear of being attacked and made fun of. sure we all say put your big boy pants on if you want to be here at this site, but at the same time, this atmosphere tends to drive people away.


im not a premium member so my opinion doesn't count but if i could afford to give money i would because i like this place in spike of the group that spends its time doing nothing but trolling to nit pick others posts rather then add to a conversation or heaven forbid actually offer "helpful" advice.


i think you would be served very well by reconsidering just how loosely things are moderated and the level of trolling that is allowed here. not saying crack down in any way but things are in need of "some" checks and balances to not drive off most new members who join.


at times i just avoid posting because i don't want to hear i spelled something wrong or be told i don't have the right to have a contrary opinion on a subject.

i come here to relax and read about fishing reports and read about and share fishing advice but with the trolls left to run amuck unchallenged and unrestrained, life is too short to need to have to put up with stuff like that.


if the trolling is put in check then you will see people starting to post more and new members wont be leaving after being run off or made to feel unwelcomed.



please consider what i said, i only want the best for this site.

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by keakar

but at the same time, you have to realize a lot of people have stopped posting because there is a group of long time members here who do nothing but act like trolls, criticizing them for their opinions as well as making fun of spelling errors (as if we are in school needing to be spell checked).


you know who the trouble makers are, and while i like this site and its free format to speak your mind without over modification of the threads, there is a point where total lack of moderation has made people feel unwelcome to voice ANY opinion for fear of being attacked and made fun of. sure we all say put your big boy pants on if you want to be here at this site, but at the same time, this atmosphere tends to drive people away.


im not a premium member so my opinion doesn't count but if i could afford to give money i would because i like this place in spike of the group that spends its time doing nothing but trolling to nit pick others posts rather then add to a conversation or heaven forbid actually offer "helpful" advice.


i think you would be served very well by reconsidering just how loosely things are moderated and the level of trolling that is allowed here. not saying crack down in any way but things are in need of "some" checks and balances to not drive off most new members who join.


at times i just avoid posting because i don't want to hear i spelled something wrong or be told i don't have the right to have a contrary opinion on a subject.




please consider what i said, i only want the best for this site.


i come here to relax and read about fishing reports and read about and share fishing advice but with the trolls left to run amuck unchallenged and unrestrained, life is too short to need to have to put up with stuff like that

Were you on that jersey shore show?

[CajunSteelsetter]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

Were you on that jersey shore show?

See, that's why nobody wants to post on here. People who spend way too much time trying to think up comebacks to people's innocent posts and comments.


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[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by CajunSteelsetter

See, that's why nobody wants to post on here. People who spend way too much time trying to think up comebacks to people's innocent posts and comments.


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Sounds like we may go to zero because I have no interest in going back on what started this site which is to allow at least some fun and more open conversation with less moderation. There is no bashing on fishing or hunting reports people that do receive infractions and are banned.

[keakar]

Originally Posted by ckinchen

Sounds like we may go to zero because I have no interest in going back on what started this site which is to allow at least some fun and more open conversation with less moderation. There is no bashing on fishing or hunting reports people that do receive infractions and are banned.

I don't know casey but my view of what the reasons they stated for starting this website were mainly because of sportsmans moderators selectively enforcing rules and allowing unchecked trolling by a certain group there to get so out of hand as to be running people off of the website and if anyone dared to speak up about it, they got banned for doing so.


hate to say it but the trolling here has gotten just as bad if not worse then at sportsman and the only real difference here is the moderators aren't involved with it.


the trolling of fishing and hunting report sections are not allowed, but that should also extend to the other forums as well because they have the gill net forum for that stupidity. why must the stupidity be allowed everywhere except 5% of the website?


people don't expect the report sections to be the only safe place to post and have an intelligent discussion about things without being harassed or have threads hijacked by trolls. if that is the case then you have decided you don't want people to be free to post things for discussion if you are saying you wont prevent trolls from screwing up those discussions.


no one is saying crack down on posts but a simple rule of not hijacking threads and staying on topic is not to much to ask. and you don't need to ban anyone over it, the magic deletion fairy works very well for us at other websites where I moderate and there is no restriction on what people feel then can say or post because they know the very basic rules to follow which are do and say what you want but no trolling, cursing, or hijacking of threads. those 3 simple rules do not fly in the face of what and why this site was created

[PotLikinisAhabbit]

Originally Posted by keakar

I don't know casey but my view of what the reasons they stated for starting this website were mainly because of sportsmans moderators selectively enforcing rules and allowing unchecked trolling by a certain group there to get so out of hand as to be running people off of the website and if anyone dared to speak up about it, they got banned for doing so.


hate to say it but the trolling here has gotten just as bad if not worse then at sportsman and the only real difference here is the moderators aren't involved with it.


the trolling of fishing and hunting report sections are not allowed, but that should also extend to the other forums as well because they have the gill net forum for that stupidity. why must the stupidity be allowed everywhere except 5% of the website?


people don't expect the report sections to be the only safe place to post and have an intelligent discussion about things without being harassed or have threads hijacked by trolls. if that is the case then you have decided you don't want people to be free to post things for discussion if you are saying you wont prevent trolls from screwing up those discussions.


no one is saying crack down on posts but a simple rule of not hijacking threads and staying on topic is not to much to ask. and you don't need to ban anyone over it, the magic deletion fairy works very well for us at other websites where I moderate and there is no restriction on what people feel then can say or post because they know the very basic rules to follow which are do and say what you want but no trolling, cursing, or hijacking of threads. those 3 simple rules do not fly in the face of what and why this site was created

So what's your point?

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by keakar

I don't know casey but my view of what the reasons they stated for starting this website were mainly because of sportsmans moderators selectively enforcing rules and allowing unchecked trolling by a certain group there to get so out of hand as to be running people off of the website and if anyone dared to speak up about it, they got banned for doing so.


hate to say it but the trolling here has gotten just as bad if not worse then at sportsman and the only real difference here is the moderators aren't involved with it.


the trolling of fishing and hunting report sections are not allowed, but that should also extend to the other forums as well because they have the gill net forum for that stupidity. why must the stupidity be allowed everywhere except 5% of the website?


people don't expect the report sections to be the only safe place to post and have an intelligent discussion about things without being harassed or have threads hijacked by trolls. if that is the case then you have decided you don't want people to be free to post things for discussion if you are saying you wont prevent trolls from screwing up those discussions.


no one is saying crack down on posts but a simple rule of not hijacking threads and staying on topic is not to much to ask. and you don't need to ban anyone over it, the magic deletion fairy works very well for us at other websites where I moderate and there is no restriction on what people feel then can say or post because they know the very basic rules to follow which are do and say what you want but no trolling, cursing, or hijacking of threads. those 3 simple rules do not fly in the face of what and why this site was created

Plot twist. The trolls that were banned at Louisiana sportsman were the ones who started this site. #mindblown

[mriguy]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

Plot twist. The trolls that were banned at Louisiana sportsman were the ones who started this site. #mindblown

Isn't this a double post.. Nevermind

[meaux fishing]

Originally Posted by keakar

I don't know casey but my view of what the reasons they stated for starting this website were mainly because of sportsmans moderators selectively enforcing rules and allowing unchecked trolling by a certain group there to get so out of hand as to be running people off of the website and if anyone dared to speak up about it, they got banned for doing so.


hate to say it but the trolling here has gotten just as bad if not worse then at sportsman and the only real difference here is the moderators aren't involved with it.


the trolling of fishing and hunting report sections are not allowed, but that should also extend to the other forums as well because they have the gill net forum for that stupidity. why must the stupidity be allowed everywhere except 5% of the website?


people don't expect the report sections to be the only safe place to post and have an intelligent discussion about things without being harassed or have threads hijacked by trolls. if that is the case then you have decided you don't want people to be free to post things for discussion if you are saying you wont prevent trolls from screwing up those discussions.


no one is saying crack down on posts but a simple rule of not hijacking threads and staying on topic is not to much to ask. and you don't need to ban anyone over it, the magic deletion fairy works very well for us at other websites where I moderate and there is no restriction on what people feel then can say or post because they know the very basic rules to follow which are do and say what you want but no trolling, cursing, or hijacking of threads. those 3 simple rules do not fly in the face of what and why this site was created

Actually this site was started because there were a small group of people that got banned from las for speaking the truth. It was a whole site of trolls and people jacking with each other for the first year. It actually got toned down a lot after Casey bought it and is still nowhere near the amount of people messing with each other.

[keakar]

Originally Posted by meaux fishing

Actually this site was started because there were a small group of people that got banned from las for speaking the truth. It was a whole site of trolls and people jacking with each other for the first year. It actually got toned down a lot after Casey bought it and is still nowhere near the amount of people messing with each other.

yes I was at LAS and watched all that go down, it was pretty sad the way people were treated.


I think many of the trolls from LAS came over here in the beginning just to cause a lot of trouble.


its a shame that some here think its fun to use this site as a form of entertainment to troll others for fun and run off new members.

[Bluechip]

Originally Posted by keakar

I don't know casey but my view of what the reasons they stated for starting this website were mainly because of sportsmans moderators selectively enforcing rules and allowing unchecked trolling by a certain group there to get so out of hand as to be running people off of the website and if anyone dared to speak up about it, they got banned for doing so.


hate to say it but the trolling here has gotten just as bad if not worse then at sportsman and the only real difference here is the moderators aren't involved with it.


the trolling of fishing and hunting report sections are not allowed, but that should also extend to the other forums as well because they have the gill net forum for that stupidity. why must the stupidity be allowed everywhere except 5% of the website?


people don't expect the report sections to be the only safe place to post and have an intelligent discussion about things without being harassed or have threads hijacked by trolls. if that is the case then you have decided you don't want people to be free to post things for discussion if you are saying you wont prevent trolls from screwing up those discussions.


no one is saying crack down on posts but a simple rule of not hijacking threads and staying on topic is not to much to ask. and you don't need to ban anyone over it, the magic deletion fairy works very well for us at other websites where I moderate and there is no restriction on what people feel then can say or post because they know the very basic rules to follow which are do and say what you want but no trolling, cursing, or hijacking of threads. those 3 simple rules do not fly in the face of what and why this site was created

Please S T F U !!!!

Sincerely,

The Moderators....

[redaddiction]

Originally Posted by bluechip

please s t f u !!!!

Sincerely,

the moderators....

thank you!!

[PotLikinisAhabbit]

Originally Posted by Bluechip

Please S T F U !!!!

Sincerely,

The Moderators....

Bet you don't ban the cry baby.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Bluechip

Please S T F U !!!!

Sincerely,

The Moderators....

Might go down as one of the best all time post

[PaulMyers]

Originally Posted by keakar

I don't know casey but my view of what the reasons they stated for starting this website were mainly because of sportsmans moderators selectively enforcing rules and allowing unchecked trolling by a certain group there to get so out of hand as to be running people off of the website and if anyone dared to speak up about it, they got banned for doing so.


hate to say it but the trolling here has gotten just as bad if not worse then at sportsman and the only real difference here is the moderators aren't involved with it.


the trolling of fishing and hunting report sections are not allowed, but that should also extend to the other forums as well because they have the gill net forum for that stupidity. why must the stupidity be allowed everywhere except 5% of the website?


people don't expect the report sections to be the only safe place to post and have an intelligent discussion about things without being harassed or have threads hijacked by trolls. if that is the case then you have decided you don't want people to be free to post things for discussion if you are saying you wont prevent trolls from screwing up those discussions.


no one is saying crack down on posts but a simple rule of not hijacking threads and staying on topic is not to much to ask. and you don't need to ban anyone over it, the magic deletion fairy works very well for us at other websites where I moderate and there is no restriction on what people feel then can say or post because they know the very basic rules to follow which are do and say what you want but no trolling, cursing, or hijacking of threads. those 3 simple rules do not fly in the face of what and why this site was created

Hahaha

Yes, our primary job needs to be deleting stupid posts from stupid posters and our secondary job needs to be to bring home a pay check so we can afford our first job.

1 mod is retired and has a family.
2 mods have straight day jobs and families.
Casey basically works 24 hours a day and is very active in his family's life.
I work a 12 hour shift and have a family also.

Why can't everybody just report the posts they find offensive. We'll take a look at it and if we feel action is required, we'll take it. It really is that easy. We get 1 or 2 posts reported per month.

[keakar]

Originally Posted by PaulMyers

Hahaha

Yes, our primary job needs to be deleting stupid posts from stupid posters and our secondary job needs to be to bring home a pay check so we can afford our first job.

1 mod is retired and has a family.
2 mods have straight day jobs and families.
Casey basically works 24 hours a day and is very active in his family's life.
I work a 12 hour shift and have a family also.

Why can't everybody just report the posts they find offensive. We'll take a look at it and if we feel action is required, we'll take it. It really is that easy. We get 1 or 2 posts reported per month.

very true, if a post isn't reported, then they cant expect mods to read and follow every thread and read every post there.


if they don't report it, they cant complain about it, but at the same time, if a mod is posting in the thread on the same page or within a few posts of someone troll posting, then its hard to believe they don't see it. it doesn't or shouldn't require a reported post before a mod feels he is permitted to simply post a reply asking to stay on topic please.


im sure many might think "well just add more mods", but as we know its not easy to find the right kind of person who has the temperament AND maturity to be a good mod. perhaps another mod that has more free time to spend on the site might help, but as you stated, the posts need to be reported so the mods are made aware someone has a complaint.

[jchief]

Originally Posted by PaulMyers

Hahaha

Yes, our primary job needs to be deleting stupid posts from stupid posters and our secondary job needs to be to bring home a pay check so we can afford our first job.

1 mod is retired and has a family.
2 mods have straight day jobs and families.
Casey basically works 24 hours a day and is very active in his family's life.
I work a 12 hour shift and have a family also.

Why can't everybody just report the posts they find offensive. We'll take a look at it and if we feel action is required, we'll take it. It really is that easy. We get 1 or 2 posts reported per month.

We don't read every damn post. If there is an issue, report the thread/post as Paul said and we'll look at it.

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[fishfighter]

Originally Posted by keakar

I don't know casey but my view of what the reasons they stated for starting this website were mainly because of sportsmans moderators selectively enforcing rules and allowing unchecked trolling by a certain group there to get so out of hand as to be running people off of the website and if anyone dared to speak up about it, they got banned for doing so.


hate to say it but the trolling here has gotten just as bad if not worse THAN at sportsman and the only real difference here is the moderators aren't involved with it.


the trolling of fishing and hunting report sections are not allowed, but that should also extend to the other forums as well because they have the gill net forum for that stupidity. why must the stupidity be allowed everywhere except 5% of the website?


people don't expect the report sections to be the only safe place to post and have an intelligent discussion about things without being harassed or have threads hijacked by trolls. if that is the case then you have decided you don't want people to be free to post things for discussion if you are saying you wont prevent trolls from screwing up those discussions.


no one is saying crack down on posts but a simple rule of not hijacking threads and staying on topic is not to much to ask. and you don't need to ban anyone over it, the magic deletion fairy works very well for us at other websites where I moderate and there is no restriction on what people feel then can say or post because they know the very basic rules to follow which are do and say what you want but no trolling, cursing, or hijacking of threads. those 3 simple rules do not fly in the face of what and why this site was created

fixed it for you

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by keakar

but at the same time, you have to realize a lot of people have stopped posting because there is a group of long time members here who do nothing but act like trolls, criticizing them for their opinions as well as making fun of spelling errors (as if we are in school needing to be spell checked).


you know who the trouble makers are, and while i like this site and its free format to speak your mind without over modification of the threads, there is a point where total lack of moderation has made people feel unwelcome to voice ANY opinion for fear of being attacked and made fun of. sure we all say put your big boy pants on if you want to be here at this site, but at the same time, this atmosphere tends to drive people away.


im not a premium member so my opinion doesn't count but if i could afford to give money i would because i like this place in spike of the group that spends its time doing nothing but trolling to nit pick others posts rather then add to a conversation or heaven forbid actually offer "helpful" advice.


i think you would be served very well by reconsidering just how loosely things are moderated and the level of trolling that is allowed here. not saying crack down in any way but things are in need of "some" checks and balances to not drive off most new members who join.


at times i just avoid posting because i don't want to hear i spelled something wrong or be told i don't have the right to have a contrary opinion on a subject.




please consider what i said, i only want the best for this site.


i come here to relax and read about fishing reports and read about and share fishing advice but with the trolls left to run amuck unchallenged and unrestrained, life is too short to need to have to put up with stuff like that

Thanks for taking the time to provide this solid feedback we will certainly consider it and thank you for your contributions to the site. There is more to it then just being a premium member you guys that are not but are always posting are making the site better. Thank you.