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[neverenuf]

Originally Posted by Smalls

He'd probably be replaced pretty quick if he did. I mean, Goodell works for the owners, does he not?

Agreed on the setting of the protest though. But, they are doing it because they have that stage.

This is what happens when athletes/actors are placed on a pedestal. They have been given that platform by us. And then people gripe when they try to use it for something they believe in.

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What is it they believe in?

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by neverenuf

What is it they believe in?

Hell, I don't know. Ask them. Inequality, brotherhood, unity. Whatever it is, they are acting on it on a platform that we gave them. And now people are mad that they are doing it.

It's as dumb as a parent giving their kid everything he/she wants, and then getting mad when the kid is a spoiled brat.

WE created the monster! And now people are mad that the monster is misbehaving.

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[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by Smalls

WE created the monster! And now people are mad that the monster is misbehaving.

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True, we gave em the platform and the monster is misbehaving. You act like we have no right to be mad about it. I say if we gave em the platform, we can taketh the platform if we choose and we can be mad about it if we like. What's your issue with folks being upset about it? Yeah it's our fault, don't mean we can't be mad or that we have to continue to give them that platform.

[Samarai]

they are doing it because they can. The players run the league. Remember when they tried to roll out replacements during the strike years. That was an embarrassment and the owners know it. unlike u and your work place, they really cant be replaced, look at the makeup of the league.

[tucan]

NFL solved the problem on SNF, they didnt show the National Anthem, i immediately turned off the TV. GoodBYe NFL, now goodbye NBC too

[Nickt87]

I gave up watching those pack of animals a long time ago. The large majority of the players are high functioning idiots with a 3rd grade reading level who will be bankrupt in 7-10 years. They were put in a spotlight bc they can run fast and jump high not bc of their intelligence. I’ve found other stuff to waste my time and money on.


If y’all want a taste of their personalities and character, go watch “Last Chance U” on Netflix. It’s a great example of what really goes on. It’s bad enough we give those idiots a “free college education” that they waste. It’s an even bigger shame we give them millions of dollars after to go run around and catch a ball and disrespect the country that GAVE it to them.

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by Nickt87

I gave up watching those pack of animals a long time ago. The large majority of the players are high functioning idiots with a 3rd grade reading level who will be bankrupt in 7-10 years. They were put in a spotlight bc they can run fast and jump high not bc of their intelligence. I?ve found other stuff to waste my time and money on.


If y?all want a taste of their personalities and character, go watch ?Last Chance U? on Netflix. It?s a great example of what really goes on. It?s bad enough we give those idiots a ?free college education? that they waste. It?s an even bigger shame we give them millions of dollars after to go run around and catch a ball and disrespect the country that GAVE it to them.

Pretty close to how I feel.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Nickt87

It?s an even bigger shame we give them millions of dollars after to go run around and catch a ball and disrespect the country that GAVE it to them.

I can't believe people still think this is about disrespect for the country. It's the easiest way for them to get attention.

I don't agree with why they are protesting--especially given the fact that the people protesting are themselves contradictions of what they are protesting. How many of those football players walk into a store and get stereotyped? How many walk down the street and have police eyeballing them as if they are up to no good? These guys are recognized on the streets, in stores. Maybe not all of them, but many of them. These are rich men, living a privileged life that 99% of us will never experience. Hell, they don't even know all of the facts about what they are protesting. I mean, you don't see football players standing up and speaking out about black-on-black crime, do you? That is a far worse EPIDEMIC than blue-on-black violence.

That doesn't mean they can't speak out about injustice; it just makes it somewhat meaningless because they don't experience it like a normal man does.

But they aren't stepping on the flag. They aren't burning the flag. They aren't protesting the men and women that fight for that flag.

Let's be honest here: it wouldn't matter how these guys chose to protest, people would have a problem with it. After all, they are just athletes (or actors; it applies to them as well) and not entitled to an opinion. Right? Hell, they are entitled to an opinion just like you and me. The problem is, that opinion is often rash and ill-informed.


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[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by Smalls

I can't believe people still think this is about disrespect for the country. It's the easiest way for them to get attention.

I don't agree with why they are protesting--especially given the fact that the people protesting are themselves contradictions of what they are protesting. How many of those football players walk into a store and get stereotyped? How many walk down the street and have police eyeballing them as if they are up to no good? These guys are recognized on the streets, in stores. Maybe not all of them, but many of them. These are rich men, living a privileged life that 99% of us will never experience. Hell, they don't even know all of the facts about what they are protesting. I mean, you don't see football players standing up and speaking out about black-on-black crime, do you? That is a far worse EPIDEMIC than blue-on-black violence.

That doesn't mean they can't speak out about injustice; it just makes it somewhat meaningless because they don't experience it like a normal man does.

But they aren't stepping on the flag. They aren't burning the flag. They aren't protesting the men and women that fight for that flag.

Let's be honest here: it wouldn't matter how these guys chose to protest, people would have a problem with it. After all, they are just athletes (or actors; it applies to them as well) and not entitled to an opinion. Right? Hell, they are entitled to an opinion just like you and me. The problem is, that opinion is often rash and ill-informed.


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It is disrespectful to this country. When the anthem and pledge is being recited you stand at attention, take your hat off, and place your hand on your heart. (At least that?s how I was taught by my Father and Grandfather)
That?s the least they can do for a country they GAVE them free food, free healthcare, free education and the opportunity to make millions for catching a ball.

If they don?t like it they can go take their sorry *** elsewhere. Go stand in front of the police station during the off season if you want to hold it down for Michael Brown and all your other fallen homies who never did anything bad. They want to be activist then they should be activists for bigger issues like their cultures serial nutting and getting 9 different mammies pregnant and then not raising their children, or maybe black on black crime, or maybe the fact that they?ve been given astronomical amounts of handouts their entire life starting at free birth costs all the way to free college education and they still suck at being functional members of society. It?s not an external issue, it?s an internal issue.


If I really cared or I thought it mattered I?d tell you how I really felt. I?m not wasting my time speaking or thinking about their ignorant *** anymore.

[bjhooper82]

Originally Posted by Nickt87

It is disrespectful to this country. When the anthem and pledge is being recited you stand at attention, take your hat off, and place your hand on your heart. (At least that?s how I was taught by my Father and Grandfather)
That?s the least they can do for a country they GAVE them free food, free healthcare, free education and the opportunity to make millions for catching a ball.

If they don?t like it they can go take their sorry *** elsewhere. Go stand in front of the police station during the off season if you want to hold it down for Michael Brown and all your other fallen homies who never did anything bad. They want to be activist then they should be activists for bigger issues like their cultures serial nutting and getting 9 different mammies pregnant and then not raising their children, or maybe black on black crime, or maybe the fact that they?ve been given astronomical amounts of handouts their entire life starting at free birth costs all the way to free college education and they still suck at being functional members of society. It?s not an external issue, it?s an internal issue.


If I really cared or I thought it mattered I?d tell you how I really felt. I?m not wasting my time speaking or thinking about their ignorant *** anymore.

Man, you hit the nail square on the head!! Great post

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by nickt87

it is disrespectful to this country. When the anthem and pledge is being recited you stand at attention, take your hat off, and place your hand on your heart. (at least that?s how i was taught by my father and grandfather)
that?s the least they can do for a country they gave them free food, free healthcare, free education and the opportunity to make millions for catching a ball.

If they don?t like it they can go take their sorry *** elsewhere. Go stand in front of the police station during the off season if you want to hold it down for michael brown and all your other fallen homies who never did anything bad. They want to be activist then they should be activists for bigger issues like their cultures serial nutting and getting 9 different mammies pregnant and then not raising their children, or maybe black on black crime, or maybe the fact that they?ve been given astronomical amounts of handouts their entire life starting at free birth costs all the way to free college education and they still suck at being functional members of society. It?s not an external issue, it?s an internal issue.


If i really cared or i thought it mattered i?d tell you how i really felt. I?m not wasting my time speaking or thinking about their ignorant *** anymore.

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[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Nickt87

It is disrespectful to this country. When the anthem and pledge is being recited you stand at attention, take your hat off, and place your hand on your heart. (At least that?s how I was taught by my Father and Grandfather)
That?s the least they can do for a country they GAVE them free food, free healthcare, free education and the opportunity to make millions for catching a ball.

If they don?t like it they can go take their sorry *** elsewhere.

The country gave them a free education? And here I thought it was the colleges that they played for, but I guess I was wrong. And how do you know they received free food and free healthcare? Are just assuming because they are black that everything was free? What about the white players that knelt? I'm pretty sure Jordy Nelson was one of the players who knelt, and that guy grew up on a farm in Kansas. You think everything was handed to him free? Hell, he was a walk-on at Kansas State.


As far as them "taking their sorry *** elsewhere"...what are we, North Korea now? Are we going to start throwing people in jail because they don't respect the government and the flag? I guess everyone who disrespected Obama for 8 years should be thrown in jail, along with everyone that continues to disrespect Trump. Can't have that.


I have two grandfathers that fought for this country (1 in WWII). My father served this country. Three of my uncles served this country. My brother-in-law serves this country. Have any of them complained about the protests? No. Because they fought for that. Do they agree with what they are protesting? No. But they fought for them to be able to do that. Not to be thrown in jail or told to leave the country because they don't respect the flag. Might as well fly the North Korean flag over the country if this is the mindset we are going to start taking on matters like this.


Here's a good question for all of the people here that seem opposed to this protest: do you stand at home when the anthem is played? Do you call out people in the stands when they do not stand and remove their hat for the playing of the anthem? Do you berate people who refuse to quit talking during the playing of the anthem?


I'm no fan of what the players are doing, and I don't agree with what they are protesting, because they are cherry-picking facts. But they have every right to do it, the owners have every right to not discipline them, and fans have every right to not watch if they choose. But you can't trample on someone's rights because you think it's wrong. And, you know, the funny thing about the 1st amendment is, what they are doing is allowed. Whether people like it or not.

[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by Smalls

But you can't trample on someone's rights because you think it's wrong. And, you know, the funny thing about the 1st amendment is, what they are doing is allowed. Whether people like it or not.

Oh it is allowed. And being as they are at "work" they can be punished for it.


Read this and let me know what you think:


https://sports.yahoo.com/steelers-ic...182928379.html

[T-TOP]

Originally Posted by Nickt87

It is disrespectful to this country. When the anthem and pledge is being recited you stand at attention, take your hat off, and place your hand on your heart. (At least that?s how I was taught by my Father and Grandfather)

That?s the least they can do for a country they GAVE them free food, free healthcare, free education and the opportunity to make millions for catching a ball.



If they don?t like it they can go take their sorry *** elsewhere. Go stand in front of the police station during the off season if you want to hold it down for Michael Brown and all your other fallen homies who never did anything bad. They want to be activist then they should be activists for bigger issues like their cultures serial nutting and getting 9 different mammies pregnant and then not raising their children, or maybe black on black crime, or maybe the fact that they?ve been given astronomical amounts of handouts their entire life starting at free birth costs all the way to free college education and they still suck at being functional members of society. It?s not an external issue, it?s an internal issue.





If I really cared or I thought it mattered I?d tell you how I really felt. I?m not wasting my time speaking or thinking about their ignorant *** anymore.

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[Andy C]

I have not watched a game or supported any NFL sponsors. Since they started pulling that crap!! I understand that there right but it's not the place for it!!

[jimmyr]

crappernick him self said its about the flag and wore a castro shirt to a press conference and pig socks they don't realize if they keep going they will be flipping burgers

[Smalls]

And for that matter, I think the owners SHOULD have punished them, for nothing more than what has been said--they were doing "on the clock". These guys aren't like any of us, but they are still employees, like any of us at our companies. We can't do it, so why can they (then again, we can't line our buddies up like bowling pins and act like we're knocking them all down when we right a bangin report, so there are obvious differences)? But there are still a few issues with that:

1) what do you do when the entire league, and even some of the owners, chose to take a knee together. How do you punish them and keep a product on the field?

2) It wasn't hitting them in the pocket books. You have to hit these guys in the pocket books and hit them HARD if you want them to change something. And what percentage of viewers/fans in attendance at games does it take to make anything change?

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[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Smalls

And for that matter, I think the owners SHOULD have punished them, for nothing more than what has been said--they were doing "on the clock". These guys aren't like any of us, but they are still employees, like any of us at our companies. We can't do it, so why can they (then again, we can't line our buddies up like bowling pins and act like we're knocking them all down when we right a bangin report, so there are obvious differences)? But there are still a few issues with that:

1) what do you do when the entire league, and even some of the owners, chose to take a knee together. How do you punish them and keep a product on the field?

2) It wasn't hitting them in the pocket books. You have to hit these guys in the pocket books and hit them HARD if you want them to change something. And what percentage of viewers/fans in attendance at games does it take to make anything change?

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And here is the even bigger problem....

If owners, managers, coaches do decide to punish them, they'll be labeled as racist, blasted all over ESPN and the news, and possibly lose their jobs. Sad that this country has come to that.

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

And here is the even bigger problem....

If owners, managers, coaches do decide to punish them, they'll be labeled as racist, blasted all over ESPN and the news, and possibly lose their jobs. Sad that this country has come to that.

Yes, but it has.

[Top Dawg]

Man. I think smalls is madder than all da mad people for being mad.