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Old 07-14-2014, 05:53 PM
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Oh and for the record. She was married too.
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Old 07-14-2014, 07:15 PM
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........it's amazing how we are taught to jump to conclusions.......

What is she cheated first?
What if the man has not been laid in years?
What if they are not even married?
What if, what if, what if.............

I spent years faithful to one woman, four years of dating pryor to that......three years doing the good boy catholic thing "waiting".......she left.......wanted something "better" accused me of being the bad guy, found a boyfriend, .......I moved on nine months later and I have been faithful to that woman for 13 years now.

All she has to do is imply something and I am/was a no good cheating SOB. And it's the "new" friends that beleive her

A picture is a thousand words..........
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Old 07-14-2014, 08:06 PM
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........it's amazing how we are taught to jump to conclusions.......

What is she cheated first?
A real man would divorce her and keep it in his pants until the divorce is final.

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What if the man has not been laid in years?
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What if they are not even married?
What if, what if, what if.............
The paint job indicates they were married. The lie would be obvious to all if the decorator was not his wife.

Sexual infidelity is the only thing that touches most women deeply enough to evoke the response on the truck. It's possible that the paint job is dishonest, but all my life experience tells me the owner of the truck cheated on his wife.

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I spent years faithful to one woman, four years of dating pryor to that......three years doing the good boy catholic thing "waiting".......she left.......wanted something "better" accused me of being the bad guy, found a boyfriend,
Sorry you got cheated on. Sorry you were lied to. All that sucks.

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All she has to do is imply something and I am/was a no good cheating SOB. And it's the "new" friends that beleive her

A picture is a thousand words..........
I think I'd move on and make a life where the woman's lies would not have any practical impact on my life. I've had people tell very serious lies about me before. Character becomes clear over time. Liar's lies eventually come to light, and people realize that I was scrupulously honest the whole time, and certain parties were lying and manipulating situations to their advantage. This is human nature.

Those who chose to believe liars (when they have reason not to) rather than a man of character and honesty should lose the benefits of the man's friendship and company.
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Old 07-14-2014, 08:45 PM
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A real man would divorce her and keep it in his pants until the divorce is final.



See above.



The paint job indicates they were married. The lie would be obvious to all if the decorator was not his wife.

Sexual infidelity is the only thing that touches most women deeply enough to evoke the response on the truck. It's possible that the paint job is dishonest, but all my life experience tells me the owner of the truck cheated on his wife.



Sorry you got cheated on. Sorry you were lied to. All that sucks.



I think I'd move on and make a life where the woman's lies would not have any practical impact on my life. I've had people tell very serious lies about me before. Character becomes clear over time. Liar's lies eventually come to light, and people realize that I was scrupulously honest the whole time, and certain parties were lying and manipulating situations to their advantage. This is human nature.

Those who chose to believe liars (when they have reason not to) rather than a man of character and honesty should lose the benefits of the man's friendship and company.
Calling BS on this one bro. So you're saying a person male or female that F's up is not real? People are human and do stupid stuff. Been there and done it. Does the screw up mean that a family can't pull together to fix the problem? I believe this is were the old saying " walk a mile in his shoes" comes into play. People mess up everyday an anyone that claims they don't is living in a delusional world.
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Calling BS on this one bro. So you're saying a person male or female that F's up is not real? People are human and do stupid stuff. Been there and done it. Does the screw up mean that a family can't pull together to fix the problem? I believe this is were the old saying " walk a mile in his shoes" comes into play. People mess up everyday an anyone that claims they don't is living in a delusional world.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the offended spouse offering forgiveness or the offending spouse asking for forgiveness and reconciliation.

My recommendation above for divorce was in specific reply to "what if the wife cheats first" as some sort of justification for going out and committing adultery. If a spouse has caused an irreconcilable offense and you want to have sex with other people, you should divorce your spouse first.

By all means, a family should "pull together and fix the problem" if at all possible. However, the offending spouse is at the mercy of the spouse that had adultery committed against him/her, so that if the offended spouse chooses, divorce is a viable option.

Who wouldn't have more respect for Hillary Clinton if she had divorced Bill? That was not a family "pulling together to fix the problem" it was a power hungry witch trying to help a philandering husband hide his ongoing evil.

A spouse is not going to find the happy marriage they hope for if they accept ongoing, persistent, unrepentant adultery. I'm glad for marriages that can survive a brief bout with sexual infidelity. Situations like the Clintons make me angry because of the horrible example they set for young women and men. Men are taught they can get away with it, and women are taught they should let it slide.
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Old 07-14-2014, 09:28 PM
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I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the offended spouse offering forgiveness or the offending spouse asking for forgiveness and reconciliation.

My recommendation above for divorce was in specific reply to "what if the wife cheats first" as some sort of justification for going out and committing adultery. If a spouse has caused an irreconcilable offense and you want to have sex with other people, you should divorce your spouse first.

By all means, a family should "pull together and fix the problem" if at all possible. However, the offending spouse is at the mercy of the spouse that had adultery committed against him/her, so that if the offended spouse chooses, divorce is a viable option.

Who wouldn't have more respect for Hillary Clinton if she had divorced Bill? That was not a family "pulling together to fix the problem" it was a power hungry witch trying to help a philandering husband hide his ongoing evil.

A spouse is not going to find the happy marriage they hope for if they accept ongoing, persistent, unrepentant adultery. I'm glad for marriages that can survive a brief bout with sexual infidelity. Situations like the Clintons make me angry because of the horrible example they set for young women and men. Men are taught they can get away with it, and women are taught they should let it slide.
Again im calling BS. You mixing politicians and adultery is the same as mixing cocaine and prostitutes. They just go hand in hand.
No one should ever accept ongoing adultery no matter if it is the man or the woman.
I will strongly disagree with your view that men are taught that its ok and that women are taught that they should just deal with it.
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If a spouse has caused an irreconcilable offense and you want to have sex with other people, you should divorce your spouse first.
A spouse is not going to find the happy marriage they hope for if they accept ongoing, persistent, unrepentant adultery.
Wait a minute! What kind of foolishness are you speaking here? Almost sounds like something we used to hear about years ago-but totally disregarded today. I think it was called...morals and values? People don't even understand the meaning of that anymore. Not to mention, no respect for the marriage itself. We're living in a "forgive and forget" society.
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Old 07-14-2014, 09:13 PM
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Math......I always respect the hell out of you.....but you are connecting dots that are too far apart........and making my point the entire time..........no divorce is the same.......only the reactions of those that do not know that they do not know......

Society wants a TV version........regardless of what angle they are coming from, religion or pagan.........

relationships are way over before the paperwork (divorce) says it is.........

My real purpose of the post was to not judge either side.........

I have donated my time now for 14 plus years helping guys protect themselves through the divorce process.

I see this repeated over and over again........maybe I am a little tender to it..........women drive men to do stupid **** all the time knowing damn well they will get everything ..........real men, make real mistakes.........real men
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kids are being raised in fatherless home because there is an industry making billions over it.
Entire systems set up in some states just to PAY child support......
Go to ANY judge's re-election fund raiser....you will see the lawyers who "war" everyday sharing drinks with the court appointed evaluators and coust appointed adjudicators.......it's a sham in the worst way
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kids are being raised in fatherless home because there is an industry making billions over it.
Entire systems set up in some states just to PAY child support......
Go to ANY judge's re-election fund raiser....you will see the lawyers who "war" everyday sharing drinks with the court appointed evaluators and coust appointed adjudicators.......it's a sham in the worst way
Most useful post in this thread. It's all about the Benji's....as usual
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Old 07-14-2014, 10:36 PM
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it's that exact attitude that allows the system to continue......your definition of judgement would have a man loosing everything because he had an indiscretion that his wife cannot forgive him for......

so drug head wife, crack whore, husband cheats, bammo......she gets the golden ticket in your book........trust me......it happens everyday.........every damn day
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so drug head wife, crack whore, husband cheats, bammo......she gets the golden ticket in your book........trust me......it happens everyday.........every damn day
It's been this way since the 1980s. It was public knowledge that this is how a marriage may well end when you walked took the vows and said, "I do."

Every man married since the 1980s has known that if they cheat, they put themselves at their wife's mercy and she could end it this way.

They decided to cheat anyway. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

The prizes have been public knowledge for a looooooong time.
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it's that exact attitude that allows the system to continue......your definition of judgement would have a man loosing everything because he had an indiscretion that his wife cannot forgive him for......

so drug head wife, crack whore, husband cheats, bammo......she gets the golden ticket in your book........trust me......it happens everyday.........every damn day
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does that make it right?

again.......most, if indeed not all, of the issues teenagers face today are tied to and in harmony with no father in the home..........

Take out the emotion and the law ......should a kid not have equal access to his father?

I think it's Holland where they enacted laws that basically states that there is presumed 50/50 and no spousal assistance for life.......guess what......divorce rates went down drastically.

Who care what the Clintons do, if it works for the Clintons. What was needed was a total media shutdown on this hyped up crap and stop satifying a vouryristic society that just can't turn from another's carnage.

I do admire your conviction.......I too had that same conviction 16 years ago.......then all hell broke loose at 33..........just when you think you have it all figured out.......you don't.

the devil does not get us by drama or adultery or murder or theaft.......he gets us by acceptance.......tolerance.......and self rightousness.........

God hates divorce......it is written for sure.......however......Proverbs has many iterations on a man not living in the same "house" as a mean hateful woman.......

It's NOT always the man's fault......adultery is a symptom.......it's what and how men create the illusion that they are gaining control over something.......

Women do it by running up your credit cards to 96K.......ask me how I know........

Stigmas are and may be different......but sin is sin............we can't shake a stigma......but we can shake the sin.......
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You people on here will argue about anything. It's always the same people posting on every thread. Don't you people have lives? Bet you're all fat and divorced lol LOSERS
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You people on here will argue about anything. It's always the same people posting on every thread. Don't you people have lives? Bet you're all fat and divorced lol LOSERS
You use a post to tell us we're losers for posting. You didn't really think that one through did you?
Why don't you go back to your table and continue coloring. The grown ups are trying to talk.
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lol
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You people on here will argue about anything. It's always the same people posting on every thread. Don't you people have lives? Bet you're all fat and divorced lol LOSERS

actually my ex is the overwieght divorced broke person..........I am holding my own by any measure......

but yes we can argue about anything..............LOL
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actually my ex is the overwieght divorced broke person..........I am holding my own by any measure......

but yes we can argue about anything..............LOL
He's got a history of poppin off on the interwebz
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again, I respect the heck out of you fellows for your held beleifs. We need more men like each of you.
However, and it may be that I am a little longer in the tooth than many here, and it may be that I have had to offer my share of forgiveness over time, but.........any man can become a good man............period end of story. What others "think" about that man is the shortcomings of the thinker..........not the man that has righted himself.

When you have to be forgiven and have to forgive, and each of you will, then you will see where I'm coming from.

This is a great thead by the way.............no one calling each other names (yet)........even "W" has been here without a fight..........

10 pages "W"
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