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Old 04-04-2013, 05:53 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to write. I have heard from many Americans regarding firearms policy and gun violence in our Nation, and I appreciate your perspective. From Aurora to Newtown to the streets of Chicago, we have seen the devastating effects gun violence has on our American family. I join countless others in grieving for all those whose lives have been taken too soon by gun violence.

Like the majority of Americans, I believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. In this country, we have a strong tradition of gun ownership that has been handed down from generation to generation. Hunting and sport shooting are part of our national heritage. Yet, even as we acknowledge that almost all gun owners in America are responsible, when we look at the devastation caused by gun violence—whether in high-profile tragedies or the daily heartbreak that plagues our cities—we must ask ourselves whether we are doing enough.

While reducing gun violence is a complicated challenge, protecting our children from harm should not be a divisive one. Most gun owners agree that we can respect the Second Amendment while keeping an irresponsible, law-breaking few from inflicting harm on a massive scale. Most also agree that if we took commonsense steps to curtail gun violence, there would be fewer atrocities like the one that occurred in Newtown. We will not be able to stop every violent act, but if there is even one thing we can do to reduce gun violence—if even one life can be saved—then we have an obligation to try.

That is why I asked Vice President Joe Biden to identify concrete steps we can take to keep our children safe, help prevent mass shootings, and reduce the broader epidemic of gun violence in this country. He met with over 200 groups representing a broad cross-section of Americans and heard their best ideas. I have put forward a specific set of proposals based off of his efforts, and in the days ahead, I intend to use whatever weight this office holds to make them a reality.

My plan gives law enforcement, schools, mental health professionals, and the public health community some of the tools they need to help reduce gun violence. These tools include strengthening the background check system, helping schools hire more resource officers and counselors and develop emergency preparedness plans, and ensuring mental health professionals know their options for reporting threats of violence. And I directed the Centers for Disease Control to study the best ways to reduce gun violence—because it is critical that we understand the science behind this public health crisis.

As important as these steps are, they are not a substitute for action from Congress. To make a real and lasting difference, members of Congress must also act. As part of my comprehensive plan, I have called on them to pass some specific proposals right away. First, it is time to require a universal background check for anyone trying to buy a gun. Second, Congress should renew the 10-round limit on magazines and reinstate and strengthen the assault weapons ban. We should get tougher on those who buy guns with the purpose of selling them to criminals, and we should impose serious punishments on anyone who helps them do this.

These are reasonable, commonsense measures that have the support of the majority of the American people. But change will not come unless the American people demand it from their lawmakers. Now is the time to do the right thing for our children, our communities, and the country we love. We owe the victims of heartbreaking national tragedies and the countless unheralded tragedies each year nothing less than our best effort—to seek consensus in order to save lives and ensure a brighter future for our children.

Thank you, again, for writing. I encourage you to visit www.WhiteHouse.gov/NowIsTheTime to learn more about my Administration’s approach.



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Barack Obama
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:34 PM
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If RKBA is really a right, then those proposing "common sense" restrictions should have no problem imposing similar "common sense" restrictions on other rights:

How about background checks on voters? After all, look at the tragic consequences when criminals are allowed to vote.
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:07 PM
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If RKBA is really a right, then those proposing "common sense" restrictions should have no problem imposing similar "common sense" restrictions on other rights:

How about background checks on voters? After all, look at the tragic consequences when criminals are allowed to vote.
Commen sense and logic left the building in 2007 when dems took over
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:20 PM
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I received the same email today but I don't understand what "common sense" they are referring to. It doesn't make sense to me to impose more regulations on law abiding citizens. Criminals are going to be criminals, plain and simple. No amount of regulation will change that. Enforce the laws already in place and get the criminals off the street then the criminal use of guns goes away. Now that's "common sense"!
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:25 PM
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:45 PM
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^ what he said
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:12 PM
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Seems so simple to us .. I sure wish they would see it that way
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:13 PM
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I received the same email today but I don't understand what "common sense" they are referring to. It doesn't make sense to me to impose more regulations on law abiding citizens. Criminals are going to be criminals, plain and simple. No amount of regulation will change that. Enforce the laws already in place and get the criminals off the street then the criminal use of guns goes away. Now that's "common sense"!
Knee jerk feel good crap is all it boils down to...just to say "see we did something!" a massacre will happen again in a gun free zone probably...and then they will really pursue their true objective of removing guns from citizens

I cringed tonight when I walked in the living room and looked up at the tv and saw the NBC show Hannibal...the guy walks into the house and shoots a man and his wife ...blood is splattered on the walls ...quite graphic....and on Tv at 8 pm...constant exposure desensitizes young minds to violence, video games are another animal all together...sure most can discern the movie crap from reality, but some cannot...lest we encroach on the 1st amendment of freedom of speech!!! No we will have no such thing!! But the 2nd "yeah it's cool. I don't own a gun they are not for me so I don't care"

Well **** you buddy...that's your right not to protect yourself and loved ones....that's your right to not enjoy a day of shooting with your son or friends or whomever....that's your right not compete in any manner of shooting comps etc...that's your right not care about the accessories an such for a firearm...that's your right not to engage in an type of outdoor hunting...

So don't tread on my rights a******....

Yet a black market for non law abiding citizens will prosper riding on any illegal service or items. It has since the creation of the US...so really all this feel good legislation doesn't mean jack crap but punish folks like you and I.

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Old 04-04-2013, 10:17 PM
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well said......
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:57 PM
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Knee jerk feel good crap is all it boils down to...just to say "see we did something!" a massacre will happen again in a gun free zone probably...and then they will really pursue their true objective of removing guns from citizens

I cringed tonight when I walked in the living room and looked up at the tv and saw the NBC show Hannibal...the guy walks into the house and shoots a man and his wife ...blood is splattered on the walls ...quite graphic....and on Tv at 8 pm...constant exposure desensitizes young minds to violence, video games are another animal all together...sure most can discern the movie crap from reality, but some cannot...lest we encroach on the 1st amendment of freedom of speech!!! No we will have no such thing!! But the 2nd "yeah it's cool. I don't own a gun they are not for me so I don't care"

Well **** you buddy...that's your right not to protect yourself and loved ones....that's your right to not enjoy a day of shooting with your son or friends or whomever....that's your right not compete in any manner of shooting comps etc...that's your right not care about the accessories an such for a firearm...that's your right not to engage in an type of outdoor hunting...

So don't tread on my rights a******....

Yet a black market for non law abiding citizens will prosper riding on any illegal service or items. It has since the creation of the US...so really all this feel good legislation doesn't mean jack crap but punish folks like you and I.

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I like it!! You are a smart one!!!!
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:57 AM
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2nd Amendment was not for hunting and sport shooting
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:00 AM
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Newton shooter broke 41 laws when he went on his killing spree.

What makes anyone think that a 42nd law would have prevented him from committing the other 41?
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:19 AM
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2nd Amendment was not for hunting and sport shooting
I understand that but it protects the rights to bear the tools used in those activities...don't forget that...this is why some are oblivious to what will truley happen.

Conn has passed some of most restrictive gun laws in the nation, none of which would have prevented Newtown....

The states passing ridiculous legislation is arming Washington to push their agenda.
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