Trophy Trout SeminAR

[wishin i was fishin]

Did anyone else from here attend the trophy trout seminar at Pack and Paddle last night?

What were your thoughts? I really enjoyed it, also made alot of connections between my own success and tips that were shared.

[Boarider]

I was there, now I'm just waiting on the next hurricane to run out fish,lol.
Pretty interesting, now to try it all out.

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[wishin i was fishin]

Originally Posted by Boarider

I was there, now I'm just waiting on the next hurricane to run out fish,lol.
Pretty interesting, now to try it all out.

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I didn't comment on that part since I only have VBay hurricane experience. In Vbay the trout come into the bay after a storm because of a salinity spike. the tidal surge from the hurricane overrides the Atchafalaya and makes the bay way salty.

["W"]

I heard that lowering the limits was brought up at this event

1st off there is absolutely nothing wrong with our trout population that would require a limit change again !

We need to move it back up to 25 if anything .

So they can take that BS somewhere else !!

[speck-addict]

Originally Posted by "W"

I heard that lowering the limits was brought up at this event

1st off there is absolutely nothing wrong with our trout population that would require a limit change again !

We need to move it back up to 25 if anything .

So they can take that BS somewhere else !!

I never understood why the state is divided I'm with you on that. The west side should go back to 25 per person

["W"]

Originally Posted by speck-addict

I never understood why the state is divided I'm with you on that. The west side should go back to 25 per person

It's only because of money and buying politicians off

no science just cry babies who can't catch 25 per person

[wishin i was fishin]

Originally Posted by "W"

I heard that lowering the limits was brought up at this event

1st off there is absolutely nothing wrong with our trout population that would require a limit change again !

We need to move it back up to 25 if anything .

So they can take that BS somewhere else !!

yeah, not much time was spent on it though. He gave the history of the trout limits but actually stayed on the topic of big trout 5lb+

They gave many factors for large fish decline,

- overall increase fishing pressure,
-oyster over harvest was brought up as one of the major contributor to downturn. stating the oyster fishermen will completely remove an entire reef.
-weir management
-erosion of the embankment supercut south.

in all they were just one guides opinions and no big debate, there are big fish in the lake and they didnt get big by being stupid.

[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by wishin i was fishin

there are big fish in the lake and they didnt get big by being stupid.

Lol yes they did. You tryna to say dey got smart fish? Are big crabs and shrimp smart too?

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[JATails]

I was there and enjoyed it. Not sure if I understood correctly on the limit discussion but believe the talk was towards limiting the number of trout over 25" that can be kept per day. Don't think there was an issue with keeping the sizes 12"-24" or at least promote catch and release on the big girls. Personal choice I know...

Also, was brought up how it would be nice to have a "lunker" program where you somehow collect the eggs of the big girls and grow them under captivity later to be redistributed to the waters. Such as Share Lunker program which I believe is done in Texas for bass.

[ahlangle]

Does anyone know if there's anything else like this (seminars, etc) coming up in LAF area, or how to find out about em? (Could always use some help on how to catch these boogers)

[Natural Light Kid]

Originally Posted by "W"

It's only because of money and buying politicians off

no science just cry babies who can't catch 25 per person

There he go with that science talk again. What a Richard cranium ��. Let's let the guides determine all of the limits,seasons, etc. Surely they know what's best for the health of the estuary. Ever think it may take multiple walks of life's (Biologist, guide, weekend warrior, etc.) input to make an EDUCATED decision? It's either your idea, or its wrong.

[wishin i was fishin]

Originally Posted by Feesherman

Lol yes they did. You tryna to say dey got smart fish? Are big crabs and shrimp smart too?

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If i have to explain it, you will not get it...

["W"]

Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid

There he go with that science talk again. What a Richard cranium ��. Let's let the guides determine all of the limits,seasons, etc. Surely they know what's best for the health of the estuary. Ever think it may take multiple walks of life's (Biologist, guide, weekend warrior, etc.) input to make an EDUCATED decision? It's either your idea, or its wrong.

So what basis was the 15 trout limit based on ?
Who ?
How ?
What?
Facts ?

I'll wait

[Natural Light Kid]

I have no idea. I don't know if it should 15 or 1500. Just trying to figure out, again, what makes you the authority on what limits should be. Would like to hear your "science" to back up the 25 fish limit. Is it because you're such a wonderful fisherman that you can catch 25? I guess I'm waiting now.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid

I have no idea. I don't know if it should 15 or 1500. Just trying to figure out, again, what makes you the authority on what limits should be. Would like to hear your "science" to back up the 25 fish limit. Is it because you're such a wonderful fisherman that you can catch 25? I guess I'm waiting now.

Trout SPR that is done by WLF says it can support a 25fish limit
The LSU study that I was part of for 6 years also proved lake can support a 25 fish limit
It's all documents

Not 1 document stated by a biologist or WLF said we needed to lower limits to 15

It was 100% political because one guide company along with some deep pocket politician who wants to make Big Lake
" a Trophy Lake"

Dropping to 15 made it a dink fishing lake for sure !!

[wishin i was fishin]

I am always surprised in how much passion this subject ignites in people.


Who has more knowledge of a fishery?

Govt Authority siting questionable data or people who are on the water daily?

Lets just say the govt does not have a good track record, look at the current red snapper regs.

My opinion is we want the science because it is somewhat non disputable. Then trust the governing authorities to use it to make the right decisions. We all know how that ends up. Data from questionable sources skewed to the wealthy s agendas.

[Natural Light Kid]

My father-in-law guided duck hunting and speck fishing for over 30 years. He was a hell of a hunter and fisherman. He was very good at catching and killing. Was on the lake and/or in the marsh over 300 days a year. Doesn't know squat about wildlife management.

[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by wishin i was fishin

If i have to explain it, you will not get it...

What say u give it whirl? I'm doin an informal survey of all outdoorsman. At what point do you stop caring about genetics? For some it's deer only. Others let the small squirrels walk. Some only shoot 20lb geese. Some throw back all big fish, well unless der offshore then they keep all the biggest snapper. I know weird huh? Some put the big shrimp back to keep the genetics of da big shrimp. So, where do you folks draw the line? Crab? Oyster? Do you put the big bass back and take home all the big sac-a-lait?

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[PaulMyers]

If it's legal, I keep it.

[redaddiction]

Originally Posted by Feesherman

What say u give it whirl? I'm doin an informal survey of all outdoorsman. At what point do you stop caring about genetics? For some it's deer only. Others let the small squirrels walk. Some only shoot 20lb geese. Some throw back all big fish, well unless der offshore then they keep all the biggest snapper. I know weird huh? Some put the big shrimp back to keep the genetics of da big shrimp. So, where do you folks draw the line? Crab? Oyster? Do you put the big bass back and take home all the big sac-a-lait?

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LMAO!! Best point made on this topic bar none!! Some seem to pick and choose which species are worthy of their release.