I just bought a FORD 4x4 150 ecoboeast....

[express5]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

They are nice looking trucks for sure. The two worst thing about them is fords idea of a spark plug and their variable cam timing. Both issues may have been adressed with new year model trucks though. I have already replaced two engines since the new body style and new engines have come out. Their crimped together spark plugs suck too. Have seen tune up bills approach the 1k mark. Just depends on how many of those crap plugs break off in the head.

I'm not sure bout the 5.0 and 6.2 but the ecoboost doesnt have those long plugs like the5.4. My 2004 lariat had the long plugs , but I never had problems changing them. I had over 200000 miles on my 04 and I chnged them 3 times without incident. There isa special procedure that goes along with those plugs. If you follow it you rarely have problems.

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by express5

I'm not sure bout the 5.0 and 6.2 but the ecoboost doesnt have those long plugs like the5.4. My 2004 lariat had the long plugs , but I never had problems changing them. I had over 200000 miles on my 04 and I chnged them 3 times without incident. There isa special procedure that goes along with those plugs. If you follow it you rarely have problems.

My cousin just changed his. I think he only had one break on him. Pain in the azz. Do you know what year they quit using those plugs? Or do all the 5.4s have those plugs?

[express5]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

My cousin just changed his. I think he only had one break on him. Pain in the azz. Do you know what year they quit using those plugs? Or do all the 5.4s have those plugs?

2010 was the last year of the 5.4 with those plugs. Then they started with the 3.5 ecoboost 3.7 5.0 .and6.2

[TNP]

Originally Posted by express5

2010 was the last year of the 5.4 with those plugs. Then they started with the 3.5 ecoboost 3.7 5.0 .and6.2

2012 F-150 Lariat 5.0- avg 15.4 mpg- wanted to buy a ecoboost- went with the tried and true 5.0. 43K miles. Runs awesome-keep my foot to th efloor daily- only way to drive-......does not pull my 24 pure bay near like my duramax, but not a good comparison.

[DA COVE]

Originally Posted by TNP

2012 F-150 Lariat 5.0- avg 15.4 mpg- wanted to buy a ecoboost- went with the tried and true 5.0. 43K miles. Runs awesome-keep my foot to th efloor daily- only way to drive-......does not pull my 24 pure bay near like my duramax, but not a good comparison.

The 5.0 they are using now isn't the same as the one of yesteryear, it's actually newer than the ecoboost engines. The ecoboosts were being used in other platforms before the 5.0 coyote engine was introduced.

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by express5

2010 was the last year of the 5.4 with those plugs. Then they started with the 3.5 ecoboost 3.7 5.0 .and6.2

Damn. So I'm screwed.

[express5]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

Damn. So I'm screwed.

Not really if you run some lucas fuel injecter cleaner in a few tanks of fuel before you decide to change them. It loosens up the carbon around the plugs before you try to remove them.
Look on youtube there are some other procedures you might want to look in to. Fyi

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by express5

I'm not sure bout the 5.0 and 6.2 but the ecoboost doesnt have those long plugs like the5.4. My 2004 lariat had the long plugs , but I never had problems changing them. I had over 200000 miles on my 04 and I chnged them 3 times without incident. There isa special procedure that goes along with those plugs. If you follow it you rarely have problems.

I've broke a few and had some with no issue. The aftermarket plugs dont have crimped on thread rings so they solved that problem. Dont see why ford thought the spark plug needed to be re-engineered. It had been working perfectly before they F'd with it. Its not just a ford issue though. It seems that no matter the brand name there is an engineer wanting to design some dumb sheet stuff. I see it everyday and im like "what the F were they thinking when they did this?"

[express5]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

I've broke a few and had some with no issue. The aftermarket plugs dont have crimped on thread rings so they solved that problem. Dont see why ford thought the spark plug needed to be re-engineered. It had been working perfectly before they F'd with it. Its not just a ford issue though. It seems that no matter the brand name there is an engineer wanting to design some dumb sheet stuff. I see it everyday and im like "what the F were they thinking when they did this?"

I feel your pain and know it first hand as I'm an autobody tech/mech. If you think domestic engineers come up with some crap, you should try your luck with some german engineering that I face on a weekly basis.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by express5

I'm not sure bout the 5.0 and 6.2 but the ecoboost doesnt have those long plugs like the5.4. My 2004 lariat had the long plugs , but I never had problems changing them. I had over 200000 miles on my 04 and I chnged them 3 times without incident. There isa special procedure that goes along with those plugs. If you follow it you rarely have problems.

Originally Posted by express5

I feel your pain and know it first hand as I'm an autobody tech/mech. If you think domestic engineers come up with some crap, you should try your luck with some german engineering that I face on a weekly basis.

To hell with that bro. We work on a few of them that belong to good customers and I hate every minute of it. If someone has a nazi car and they arent a regular customer we send them to the shop in town that specialises in them.

[southern151]

Originally Posted by express5

I feel your pain and know it first hand as I'm an autobody tech/mech. If you think domestic engineers come up with some crap, you should try your luck with some german engineering that I face on a weekly basis.

Ford is a nightmare in the collision world! To work on them, simply get every socket and wrench you own nearby because, you're gonna need it! I swear their engineers are bored with it comes to designing the bolt up aspects of their vehicles!