Weirs Closed

[hewes]

why does the refuge limit access to the public through grand bayou? I would love to see it opened every sat and sunday so people would have access to the resource the govt is protecting for the people. I live at heberts. when the weirs are open parking lot is full. I see boaters all the time drive to landing find out weirs are closed and their day is ruined

["W"]

Originally Posted by hewes

why does the refuge limit access to the public through grand bayou? I would love to see it opened every sat and sunday so people would have access to the resource the govt is protecting for the people. I live at heberts. when the weirs are open parking lot is full. I see boaters all the time drive to landing find out weirs are closed and their day is ruined

They had 3 leave today while I was waiting on my clients
All with kids and your taxes pay for that refuge

[Mr T]

please send some of that salt to Vermilion Bay!

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by hewes

why does the refuge limit access to the public through grand bayou? I would love to see it opened every sat and sunday so people would have access to the resource the govt is protecting for the people. I live at heberts. when the weirs are open parking lot is full. I see boaters all the time drive to landing find out weirs are closed and their day is ruined

The primary objective of the NWR is to provide waterfowl habitat, not fisheries. If conditions are not favorable to proper management of that habitat, they are going to close the weirs.

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Smalls

The primary objective of the NWR is to provide waterfowl habitat, not fisheries. If conditions are not favorable to proper management of that habitat, they are going to close the weirs.

I feel like this concept should be re-thought. Waterfowl can literally go almost anywhere there is a little bit of water. That marsh is not very big in the grand scheme of waterfowl habitat in the state of louisiana. On the other hand, southwest louisiana has one estuary, and that should be the main concern IMO.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

I feel like this concept should be re-thought. Waterfowl can literally go almost anywhere there is a little bit of water. That marsh is not very big in the grand scheme of waterfowl habitat in the state of louisiana. On the other hand, southwest louisiana has one estuary, and that should be the main concern IMO.

they can't just get by on water alone, they need food. Saltwater kills desirable waterfowl foods.

Look at the east side of the state in the marshes of Leeville/Golden Meadow, these areas used to be great duck hunting for dabbling ducks, now its a garhole due to a lack of desirable food. There isn't anything for puddle ducks to eat there, scaup and divers on the other hand...

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

I feel like this concept should be re-thought. Waterfowl can literally go almost anywhere there is a little bit of water. That marsh is not very big in the grand scheme of waterfowl habitat in the state of louisiana. On the other hand, southwest louisiana has one estuary, and that should be the main concern IMO.

That's the purpose of every NWR. They aren't going to re-write the definition of an NWR for just because of where it is situated. The weirs are not operated by USFWS anymore and even so, the intent was not to manage for a given group of species, but to manage the marsh as a whole.

It just so happens that land behind the weirs is managed for waterfowl, and waterfowl benefit from lower salinity environments because the overwhelming majority of waterfowl food occurs in brackish and intermediate marsh, which is what the area is maintained as.

So, it is easy to assume the weirs are for management of waterfowl habitat, but they are not. They are in place to keep a delicate ecosystem in balance, by keeping salinities low enough to sustain those plant communities.

Also, NWRs are created through duck stamp funds. They can't re-write the definition of an NWR, and then continue to fund it with money meant for waterfowl management if the written purpose is not waterfowl management.

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Smalls

The primary objective of the NWR is to provide waterfowl habitat, not fisheries. If conditions are not favorable to proper management of that habitat, they are going to close the weirs.

Your quote, not mine

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

Your quote, not mine

Again, I was referencing two seperate things. Someone said the NWR should account for fish as well. They do not manage fish, they manage ducks. The weirs are there to manage marsh habitat. If conditions aren't right to maintain the marsh, they close the weirs.

[Jadams]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Again, I was referencing two seperate things. Someone said the NWR should account for fish as well. They do not manage fish, they manage ducks. The weirs are there to manage marsh habitat. If conditions aren't right to maintain the marsh, they close the weirs.

Why does laccasine do fish shocks and counts.... That's a nwr... Guess them coonasses ain't managing the fish they just shocking em 4 the hell of it


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[mallardhead]

Originally Posted by Jadams

Why does laccasine do fish shocks and counts.... That's a nwr... Guess them coonasses ain't managing the fish they just shocking em 4 the hell of it


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[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by mallardhead

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Raffing my F*****g A** off?