Baltimore

[marshrunner757]

Respect is earned!

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by marshrunner757

Respect is earned!

As should income be

[BassYakR]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

As should income be

Yep! Rioting and looting would be alot harder to do if they were all at work supporting their families.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by marshrunner757

Respect is earned!

I'm not sure I agree. I think other people should generally be respected until they provide good reason not to be.

I am certainly teaching my children to respect others, and especially teachers, coaches, and uniformed public servants unless they have a good reason not to (such as an apparent attempt to cause harm, deceive, or clearly abuse authority).

I also think law enforcement would generally improve if officers more consistently demonstrated respect for citizens unless they have good reason not to in a specific case and circumstance.

The "us" vs. "them" mentality is not really helping unless one refrains as classifying others as "them" until you have specific, credible information giving you a good reason to classify someone as "them."

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

I'm not sure I agree. I think other people should generally be respected until they provide good reason not to be.

I am certainly teaching my children to respect others, and especially teachers, coaches, and uniformed public servants unless they have a good reason not to (such as an apparent attempt to cause harm, deceive, or clearly abuse authority).

I also think law enforcement would generally improve if officers more consistently demonstrated respect for citizens unless they have good reason not to in a specific case and circumstance.

The "us" vs. "them" mentality is not really helping unless one refrains as classifying others as "them" until you have specific, credible information giving you a good reason to classify someone as "them."

You are correct...........there is however, a trend in these large cities to teach children NOT to respect others unless it is earned.........

But we have a younger group that is confusing fear with respect.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

But we have a younger group that is confusing fear with respect.

Sometimes authorities can reasonably use fear to help impart healthy respect.

We've all known teachers who would slap your hand with a ruler or issue a detention if you did not demonstrate respect.

We've all known coaches who would make you run extra laps or have some other consequence if proper respect was not shown.

And we've all encountered law enforcement more likely to write a ticket rather than issue a warning for a traffic violation if we failed to be respectful.

There is nothing wrong with a healthy fear of those in authority bringing reasonable consequences for failure to demonstrate proper respect.

But serious injury and death are not reasonable consequences in most cases unless that "lack of respect" carries with it a clear danger of death or great bodily harm.

[marshrunner757]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

I'm not sure I agree. I think other people should generally be respected until they provide good reason not to be."

This is what I'm meaning MG.
Just because I respect you up front doesn't mean you're entitled to it.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by marshrunner757

This is what I'm meaning MG.
Just because I respect you up front doesn't mean you're entitled to it.

As U.S. citizens we are all entitled to the respect of our rights by citizens and public servants, whether you like it or not.

So yes, in some sense, I am entitled to some form of respect by you just like 'ol Freddie