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Old 08-10-2015, 07:55 PM
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But don't forget that it's the law. Unless you complete 8 hours per year tactical training and have the ok from the pastor the law says you cannot CC in a house of worship even if you have a CC permit. I totally agree that it's not a perfect plan and hope none of us ever have to go through a really bad situation.
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Old 08-10-2015, 08:10 PM
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But don't forget that it's the law. Unless you complete 8 hours per year tactical training and have the ok from the pastor the law says you cannot CC in a house of worship even if you have a CC permit. I totally agree that it's not a perfect plan and hope none of us ever have to go through a really bad situation.
You sir are correct. However oc is unregulated according to the state constitution. It is clear in the fact that only cc can be regulated. It can be overridden by property rights and I completely agree with that. You don't want me to carry that is your right but I also will never spend money with your business or church.
I do believe that 8hours a year training is laughable. Of course I think the cc requirements and a POST course is laughable also.
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Old 08-10-2015, 08:23 PM
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You sir are correct. However oc is unregulated according to the state constitution. It is clear in the fact that only cc can be regulated. It can be overridden by property rights and I completely agree with that. You don't want me to carry that is your right but I also will never spend money with your business or church.
I do believe that 8hours a year training is laughable. Of course I think the cc requirements and a POST course is laughable also.
I agree with you about the 8 hours and the CC requirements. This amount of training doesn't come close to preparing one for a situation like a shooting in a church.
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Old 08-10-2015, 08:39 PM
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I agree with you about the 8 hours and the CC requirements. This amount of training doesn't come close to preparing one for a situation like a shooting in a church.

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I can understand Cajuns point here. Id say 90%+ of CC holders are immensely under trained for the power they posses. In a church, theater or where ever trying to be a hero will get you killed. .
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Old 08-10-2015, 08:57 PM
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I agree with you about the 8 hours and the CC requirements. This amount of training doesn't come close to preparing one for a situation like a shooting in a church.
There are a few here that think I'm some 5'3" cocky guy strutting around with my 45 looking for a fight. I have strong stances I understand that. I have also been fortunate enough to train under some very great people. One was swat leader and head marksman for APD one was SRT team leader for Fort Polk and one was free lance edged weapons trainer for various departments. I agree with both sides of this issue. There is and never will be a perfect plan. Not be in a gun fight is the only perfect plan.
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Old 08-10-2015, 09:00 PM
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There are a few here that think I'm some 5'3" cocky guy strutting around with my 45 looking for a fight. I have strong stances I understand that. I have also been fortunate enough to train under some very great people. One was swat leader and head marksman for APD one was SRT team leader for Fort Polk and one was free lance edged weapons trainer for various departments. I agree with both sides of this issue. There is and never will be a perfect plan. Not be in a gun fight is the only perfect plan.
If I was planning to be in a gunfight I would NOT rely on my concealed carry pistol.

I actually plan to never be in a gun fight, but if one is brought to me I do carry a pistol everywhere I go.
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Old 08-10-2015, 09:18 PM
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If I was planning to be in a gunfight I would NOT rely on my concealed carry pistol.

I actually plan to never be in a gun fight, but if one is brought to me I do carry a pistol everywhere I go.
I believe it was Jeff Cooper that said a handgun is only to fight your way back to your rifle.
You will never carry a handgun and have enough gun.
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Old 08-10-2015, 09:29 PM
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You will never carry a handgun and have enough gun.

HAHA the only gun I have ever sold was a Desert Eagle .50 too much hand gun!! too much $$ to be wrapped up in a gun I didn't like to shot
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